Service Rifle Mod ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ - Please Assist

[Irandis]

I downloaded a replacer for the Service Rifle mod so it'd get rid of the ugly ass Assault Rifle in the main game, turns out it broke the Service Rifle Mod and now even after removing the replacer, the service rifle wont spawn in game and the quest associated with it is now busted. How do I ♥♥♥♥♥♥ this without reverting a 20+ hour save to before I made this dumbass choice?

[Lenny Rat]

What mod manager are you using? If it’s not MO2, you might not be able to “cleanly” remove and reinstall it.

[Irandis]

Originally posted by Lenny Rat:

What mod manager are you using? If it’s not MO2, you might not be able to “cleanly” remove and reinstall it.

I'm using Vortex, it's usually been hassle free for me.

[trey]

the mod page says:

"Simply uninstall with your mod manager, but remember: the golden rule of modding is not to uninstall anything mid-game. This mod makes data changes that may be irreversible, so you may have to load a previous save that hasn't seen this mod."

if i uninstall a mod mid playthrough i'll make a normal save, uninstall the mod. Restart the game and load that save. Make another save and reload the new save. Wait 7 in-game days for the leveled list to reset. After 7 days make another save and reload it. Then leave the cell and pray it worked.

[Irandis]

Originally posted by eMp4th:

the mod page says:

"Simply uninstall with your mod manager, but remember: the golden rule of modding is not to uninstall anything mid-game. This mod makes data changes that may be irreversible, so you may have to load a previous save that hasn't seen this mod."

if i uninstall a mod mid playthrough i'll make a normal save, uninstall the mod. Restart the game and load that save. Make another save and reload the new save. Wait 7 in-game days for the leveled list to reset. After 7 days make another save and reload it. Then leave the cell and pray it worked.

Seems like the only thing to go on then. Is there any way to verify if the LL's are fixed beyond waiting? or is that pretty much my only option? Cause I'm not even sure if the SR mod is active correctly given the replacers jank

[Irandis]

No dice it seems. I waited 7 days in game in Home plate and the Rifle did not show up in any of the Vendors or even in weapons listing using cheat engine.

[SuperSledgeNY]

The fix: Start a new play through and hopefully you've learned to:

1. Always READ the author's mod page in full, including the Bugs and Posts tab. Had you done this, you would have known that removing a mod in the middle of a game is never a good idea.

2. Refer to item 1.

[Irandis]

Originally posted by SuperSledgeNY:

The fix: Start a new play through and hopefully you've learned to:

1. Always READ the author's mod page in full, including the Bugs and Posts tab. Had you done this, you would have known that removing a mod in the middle of a game is never a good idea.

2. Refer to item 1.

1. I'm not trying to uninstall the Rifle mod itself, I want to remove the replacer thats broken and was replacing an item that didn't enter the level list until the 20's anyways. https://imgur.com/a/Mf0Jlpb as you can see the replacer author states that it's fine to remove his replacer and the bug's and posts page say nothing of the issue I'm having.

2. Refer to item 1. :)

[SuperSledgeNY]

Originally posted by Irandis:

2. Refer to item 1. :)

HALP!!!!! I'm caught in an infinite loop......................................... :)

So you installed and subsequently removed a mod that replaces the AR with DeadPool2099's service rifle, and also added it to the leveled lists. And the AR didn't "come back" as the author claimed it would after the mod was uninstalled. Do I have it right? We're talking about TWO mods here, correct?

Did you try reinstalling DeadPool's service rifle mod after you uninstalled the OTHER mod? That might fix it but if not, continue reading.

As I stated in my own Item 1, its never a good idea to remove a mod in the middle of a play-through and the reason for this is some mods, even after you uninstall all their files, can leave behind data that is forever baked into your save.

Unless you know exactly what this data is AND know how to edit it out of your save file, you only have TWO options at this point. First is to start a new game and the second is to replay your game from a save file that was made BEFORE you installed the problem mod. Neither of these are attractive but unfortunately, this is what you're up against.

Now there's a remote possibility that the problem is actually being caused by ANOTHER mod in your load order but finding this is also a pain in the a$$. You'll have to use the good old-fashioned method of disabling your mods a few at a time, testing your game after each batch until you find the other mod. This method assumes that you've installed your mods in the first place with a decent mod manager like Vortex or MO2, If you've made the mistake of installing your mods manually, in other words drag and drop the actual files into your Data folder, all bets are off, especially if any files added by other mods have been overwritten.

I don't know if this has been helpful to you but IMHO, you don't have many choices here. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

EDIT: I just had another thought. By any chance, did you happen to create a bashed patch to correct leveled list conflicts AFTER you installed the replacer mod? If you did, try disabling that.

[Irandis]

Originally posted by SuperSledgeNY:

Originally posted by Irandis:

2. Refer to item 1. :)

HALP!!!!! I'm caught in an infinite loop......................................... :)

So you installed and subsequently removed a mod that replaces the AR with DeadPool2099's service rifle, and also added it to the leveled lists. And the AR didn't "come back" as the author claimed it would after the mod was uninstalled. Do I have it right?

As I stated in my own Item 1, its never a good idea to remove a mod in the middle of a play-through and the reason for this is some mods, even after you uninstall all their files, can leave behind data that is forever baked into your save.

Unless you know exactly what this data is AND know how to edit it out of your save file, you only have TWO options at this point. First is to start a new game and the second is to replay your game from a save file that was made BEFORE you installed the problem mod. Neither of these are attractive but unfortunately, this is what you're up against.

Now there's a remote possibility that the problem is actually being caused by ANOTHER mod in your load order but finding this is also a pain in the a$$. You'll have to use the good old-fashioned method of disabling your mods a few at a time, testing your game after each batch until you find the other mod. This method assumes that you've installed your mods in the first place with a decent mod manager like Vortex or MO2, If you've made the mistake of installing your mods manually, in other words drag and drop the actual files into your Data folder, all bets are off, especially if any files added by other mods have been overwritten.

I don't know if this has been helpful to you but IMHO, you don't have many choices here. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

It's been a lil helpful, and I appreciate the info, I messed with the load order and got the vanilla assault rifle to return and spawn as usual, but the service rifle essentially doesn't exist despite being installed and showing active in plugins.

I downloaded a cheat mod that also has mod support and it can spawn all my other mod weapons in game, but the Service Rifle isnt in there, so I think you're right and the replacer essentially baked the rifle out of the game permanently.

It's just annoying as this is the 3rd save ive had where I've played nearly 20-30 hours only to find a play through killing bug. Usually I'd play on without it, but this playthrough was based on using that mod specifically so it's a bust.

[SuperSledgeNY]

I added something to the end my post that you may have missed. It was just a thought.

[Irandis]

Originally posted by SuperSledgeNY:

I added something to the end my post that you may have missed. It was just a thought.

I only use Vortex and don't use F4Edit or LOOT, so I'd have no idea how to manually create a patch or edit my mods individually. I'm pretty novice at modding in general and I've always relied on Vortex to resolve conflicts or mod order issues for me.

[SuperSledgeNY]

Originally posted by Irandis:

Originally posted by SuperSledgeNY:

I added something to the end my post that you may have missed. It was just a thought.

I only use Vortex and don't use F4Edit or LOOT, so I'd have no idea how to manually create a patch or edit my mods individually. I'm pretty novice at modding in general and I've always relied on Vortex to resolve conflicts or mod order issues for me.

I use Vortex myself, with multiple profiles, each having a different loadout of mods, and I've found it to be extremely reliable, so you're on the right path there.

However, as someone new to adding mods to your game, you're going to make mistakes and that's unavoidable, As you grow more familiar with what you're doing and learn the file structure of the game, you'll start to make better choices in what mods you choose to install.

Before installing ANY mod, there are certain warning flags that you'll soon learn to recognize. You'll find these in the BUGS tab and the POSTS tab on the Nexus mod page. If you see pages and pages of bugs that are unanswered by the author, the bells should go off in your brain. Don't forget to look at the POSTS since you'll be surprised at what you can find in other users' comments.

In the beginning, most novices go on a "feeding frenzy" and install mods without doing any research. This usually results in a borked game and a frustrated and angry player. Don't let that happen to you.

Install your mods one at a time, always make a hard save BEFORE you install any mod and NEVER overwrite that save. You never know when you'll need to replay from that point.

Good luck and enjoy the game. :)