When freedom calls does not start (Probably mod related problem)

[Lattina2517]

I got this problem with the quest, i began a new playtrough and the quest didn't start when i killed the raiders outside, so i entered the museum killed them but the door is locked, resetting their AI does nothing, tried a lot of commands to start the quest but that also didn't work so i don't know wtf is going on.

This is my load order.

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm
9 9 workshopframework.esm
10 a hudframework.esm
11 b unlockedsettlementobjects.esm
12 c NAC.esm
254 FE 0 BerettaM9FS.esl
254 FE 1 Skb_MachinegunsRebirth.esl
254 FE 2 HellcatPA.esl
13 d EthreonMasterPlan.esm
14 e Loads.esm
254 FE 3 T65PA.esl
15 f LooksMenu.esp
16 10 ImmersiveLoversEmbraceRemastered.esp
17 11 Smoke-able Cigars.esp
18 12 Enclave Officer.esp
19 13 ChrisAnimeEyes.esp
20 14 LMBTOverlays.esp
21 15 LooksMirror.esp
22 16 Improved FPS.esp
23 17 M8r_Item_Tags_Vanilla_IT.esp
24 18 spectacleislandreborn.esp
25 19 moreuniques.esp
26 1a Armorsmith Extended.esp
27 1b Piercings.esp
28 1c NAI.esp
Weaponsmith Extended 2.esp
29 1d TerminatorEN.esp
TerminatorRUS.esp
30 1e TacticalTablet.esp
31 1f LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
32 20 AlexSleevePatcher.esp
33 21 Mossberg500.esp
34 22 AnimatedRadaway.esp
35 23 McMillanCS5.esp
36 24 Yona_Weapon_DefenseGun.esp
37 25 3dscopes-defensegun.esp
38 26 DD_bleu_Ump_Extreme_Lore_friendly_edition.esp
39 27 3dscopes-ump.esp
40 28 Quad_Fusillade.esp
41 29 Glock19x.esp
42 2a GS Beretta PX4.esp
43 2b M1014.esp
44 2c weightless junk.esp
45 2d FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
46 2e FunctionalDisplays.esp
47 2f FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp
48 30 WestTekTacticalOptics.esp
49 31 3dnpc_fo4.esp
ImmersiveLoversEmbraceMagnolia.esp
50 32 MutilatedDeadBodies.esp
51 33 mojaveimports.esp
52 34 Animated Drinking.esp
53 35 Minutekeep.esp
54 36 CastleWallsRepaired 3.esp
55 37 bettersettlements.esp
56 38 unlockedsettlementobjectsdlc04.esp
57 39 CombinedArmsNV.esp
58 3a CombinedArmsEXPack.esp
HaxAUG.esp
59 3b FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp
60 3c CastleRestored.esp
61 3d settlementheight9000-aio.esp
62 3e BetterOpenSeason.esp
63 3f unlockedsettlementobjectsdlc03.esp
64 40 unlockedsettlementobjectsdlc06.esp
65 41 DeadlierDeathclaws.esp
66 42 modern firearms.esp
67 43 unlockedsettlementobjectsdlc02.esp
68 44 unlockedsettlementobjectsdlc05.esp
69 45 Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - The Castle.esp
70 46 MilitarizedMinutemen.esp
71 47 MilitarisedMinutemen_PatchesAddon.esp
72 48 unlockedsettlementobjectsdlc01.esp
73 49 M2_Flamethrower_2.2.esp
74 4a Mercenary.esp
bridgefix.esp
75 4b DOOMMerged.esp
76 4c powerarmort49.esp
77 4d mjp_ptrs41atr.esp
78 4e Ak5C.esp
79 4f Rangergearnew.esp
80 50 Wana_SA58.esp
81 51 CAPA.esp
82 52 Midwest Power Armor Evolution.esp
83 53 p99.esp
84 54 classicsniper.esp
85 55 m1garand.esp
86 56 skibsweapons-redux.esp
87 57 Skibs-WHMk22Redux.esp
88 58 Cyber-Light Hand Cannon.esp
89 59 LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp
90 5a SkyrimInspiredPowerArmor.esp
91 5b mauser rifle pack.esp
92 5c GS Benelli M3S90.esp
93 5d lasercannon.esp
94 5e AtomicAnnieLagrieGun.esp
95 5f Vault-Tec Power Armor by NewerMind43 & Captain-Ultima.esp
96 60 AK74M.esp
97 61 BullpupBozar.esp
98 62 9x39Project.esp
99 63 3dscopes-9x39project.esp
100 64 3dscopes-bullpupbozar.esp
101 65 3dscopes-classicsniper.esp
102 66 3dscopes-fnfal.esp
103 67 3dscopes-leeenfield.esp
104 68 Inst_Exoskeleton_R-20.esp
105 69 ASVektor.esp
106 6a BattleRifle.esp
107 6b M2216.esp
108 6c AK2047.esp
109 6d M14.esp
110 6e R91M.esp
111 6f 3dscopes-pack1.esp
112 70 3dscopes-vektor.esp
113 71 3dscopes.esp
254 FE 4 RussianStimpack.esp
114 72 P90.esp
115 73 P90NPC.esp
116 74 CazadorML.esp
117 75 AKMnv.esp
254 FE 5 Kedr.esp
118 76 DesertEagleNV.esp
119 77 SV-98.esp
120 78 FCOM.esp
121 79 queengreatesthitsholotape.esp
122 7a MP7.esp
123 7b AK400.esp
124 7c Quad_Accelerator.esp
125 7d classicbehemoth.esp
126 7e SLR.esp
127 7f CorpusPraesidium.esp
128 80 Quad_Element.esp
129 81 InstitWeapPosit.esp
130 82 More Materials Loot.esp
131 83 fathercompanion.esp
132 84 IS_BEST_FIGHTER_Strong_v2.esp
133 85 Crimsomrider's Likable Strong.esp
134 86 strong_PA.esp
135 87 strong_PA - AWKCR.esp
136 88 KSHairdos.esp
137 89 Scopes.esp
138 8a SurvivalOptions.esp
254 FE 6 M8rDisablePipboyEffects.esp
139 8b DropQuestItems.esp
140 8c 10mmRevolver.esp
141 8d Crafting Workbench.esp
142 8e Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp
143 8f Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp
144 90 Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp
145 91 Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp
146 92 Crafting Workbenches - Junk Items.esp
147 93 Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp
148 94 Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp
149 95 Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp
150 96 JotaroHat.esp
151 97 Classic VATS.esp
152 98 CBBE.esp
153 99 Balaclava.esp
154 9a fog.esp
155 9b ChineseStealthSuit.esp
156 9c shipmentofeverything.esp
157 9d lots more male hairstyles.esp
158 9e power armor quick enter and exit.esp
159 9f mso_sms.esp
160 a0 settlementlimitslashed.esp
161 a1 visiblecompanionaffinity.esp
162 a2 companion infinite ammo.esp
163 a3 dd-enhanced blood basic.esp
164 a4 improved map with visible roads.esp
nb_buildlimitremover.esp
165 a5 More Power Armour Mods.esp
166 a6 combat_PA.esp
167 a7 tumbajamba Advanced Engineering.esp
168 a8 combat_PA - tAE.esp
169 a9 EnclaveX02.esp
170 aa LegendaryModification.esp
171 ab LegendaryModification2LM.esp
172 ac LegendaryModificationCSA.esp
173 ad LegendaryModificationMisc.esp
174 ae UNnaked Power Armor.esp
175 af Lots More Facial Hair.esp
176 b0 Factor.esp
177 b1 gmp.esp
178 b2 Archimedes-II.esp
179 b3 CompanionAccuracy.esp
180 b4 M60.esp
181 b5 SKKVertibirdWorldTravel.esp
182 b6 AQUILA.esp
183 b7 wm chinese assault rifle - standalone.esp
184 b8 T-51C Power Armor.esp
185 b9 L96A1.esp
186 ba G36Complex.esp
187 bb HK_MP5.esp
188 bc GIAT_FAMAS.esp
189 bd HRP_Mk23.esp
254 FE 7 TEC9.esp
190 be m82a.esp
191 bf fn five-seven v3.0.esp
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193 c1 Hellfirenew.esp
194 c2 X03Factions.esp
195 c3 unlockedsettlementobjectsmashups.esp
196 c4 Buffed Fortune Finder.esp
197 c5 InstitutePowerArmor.esp
198 c6 Conelrad 640-1240.esp
199 c7 P220.esp
200 c8 CustomCamera.esp
TacticalTablet_Pip-BoyFlashlight.esp
201 c9 NAC-FarHarbor.esp
202 ca NAC-NukaWorld.esp
203 cb StartMeUp.esp
204 cc Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp

[=EGC= kansasterry]

When this happened in one playthrough it turned out there was a raider outside that had spawned inside one of the buildings and could only be hit with damage from a grenade etc. so the balcony dialogue requesting help did not activate.

Now if there is a mod in that long list that edits concord, raiders, MM, or quests related to the MM there could be a conflict. I recall reports about some CC content that could cause issues though I thought that was with the opening codsworth stuff but been a while since I read the information.

[Lattina2517]

i have militarized minutemen that edits the minutemen in almost every aspect, tomorrow i'll try to deactivate it and i'll let you know

[Shadowrun]

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/When_Freedom_Calls

look to the wiki for the QUEST STAGES. scroll down the page a bit to find that section. then type in the console commands to progress the quest to the stage that you want.

example:

setstage 1a001c 10

to start the quest, or

setstage 1a001c 1000

to complete it and bypass it

[Lattina2517]

i tried to set it but it didn't work, i havent tried to bypass it yet

[Zotliatlicor]

This could be very simple, i hope it works.

Did you talk to Codsworth and trigger his dialouge before you went into Concord?

No matter the mods i still think you "have" to talk to him, get Nora/Nate's Holotape and respond to the "Search the Neighbourhood for Shaun" with him. He will tell you to go to Concord, and he will be availible as a Companion once you do.

The CC Tunnel Snakes mess up this Quest stage, maybe other mods also mess this up.

[Lattina2517]

Originally posted by Zotliatlicor:

This could be very simple, i hope it works.

Did you talk to Codsworth and trigger his dialouge before you went into Concord?

No matter the mods i still think you "have" to talk to him, get Nora/Nate's Holotape and respond to the "Search the Neighbourhood for Shaun" with him. He will tell you to go to Concord, and he will be availible as a Companion once you do.

The CC Tunnel Snakes mess up this Quest stage, maybe other mods also mess this up.

So i have a bunch of mods like start me up for example and i remember that i talked to codsworth before i actually went to vault 111, and also he didn't gave me the quest objective to search in concord. I'll start over again because it's only 1 hour of playtrough so it doesn't matter.

[Lattina2517]

so i restarted the playtrough, completed the initial start me up quest then i went to talk to codsworth and as usual i followed him in the houses to kill the bloatflies but he didn't want to exit the first house so i tried a bunch of things like disabling and reanebling him resetting his ai and even killing the other lies in the other house then moving him to me with the command but it did not work and he didn't talk to me, i saw that people have a simililar problem that is caused by a creation club item (i don't have any). So got any ideas on what i might try to do ?

[Lattina2517]

Originally posted by Lattina2517:

so i restarted the playtrough, completed the initial start me up quest then i went to talk to codsworth and as usual i followed him in the houses to kill the bloatflies but he didn't want to exit the first house so i tried a bunch of things like disabling and reanebling him resetting his ai and even killing the other lies in the other house then moving him to me with the command but it did not work and he didn't talk to me, i saw that people have a simililar problem that is caused by a creation club item (i don't have any). So got any ideas on what i might try to do ?

oh and i stopped there because people that were getting this problem where getting the same issue with preston.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by Lattina2517:

so i restarted the playtrough, completed the initial start me up quest then i went to talk to codsworth and as usual i followed him in the houses to kill the bloatflies but he didn't want to exit the first house so i tried a bunch of things like disabling and reanebling him resetting his ai and even killing the other lies in the other house then moving him to me with the command but it did not work and he didn't talk to me, i saw that people have a simililar problem that is caused by a creation club item (i don't have any). So got any ideas on what i might try to do ?

I do not use mods. But I have seen posts on here, stating just deactivating a mod or even removing them, does not always remove some files in the game which can cause conflicts. You may want to uninstall the game and then reinstall it.

[Zotliatlicor]

Try do remove / disable the Start me up part. Your problems seem so similar to how the Tunnel Snakes break, and it seems to be linked to the startup of the game, leaving Vault 111 first time.

It (TS) messes with Codsworth's dialouge and quest chain which IS a Pre req for any dealings with Preston. At least search the Start me up Forums own FaQ.

[ZarahNeander]

Originally posted by Zotliatlicor:

Try do remove / disable the Start me up part. Your problems seem so similar to how the Tunnel Snakes break, and it seems to be linked to the startup of the game, leaving Vault 111 first time.

I use startMeUp sice ages and never had any problems with it

It (TS) messes with Codsworth's dialouge and quest chain which IS a Pre req for any dealings with Preston. At least search the Start me up Forums own FaQ.

Wrong. Both are completely independent quests: 'out of time' is MQ and speaking to Codsworth is entirely optional (in fact I never do). 'when freedom calls' is MM

[Shadowrun]

for sure this sounds like one of your mods causing trouble. and i would guess that even if you made it past the freedom calls bug it would just continue breaking your quests the whole way through.

i'm not real familiar with a lot of mods but here's what i would do.

start a new game with no mods running. exit vault 111. do a save game. now you have a point to start from if things get wonky.

now enable the mods you believe to be safe and not causing this problem. just flip on a few of them at a time, then go test this. maybe talk to codsworth and see if he breaks. maybe you can use him to test the quest bug. maybe you won't have to go all the way to concord each time.

but enable a few more mods and try it again. eventually you'll enable the offending mod and the problem will come back.

once you've narrowed it down to the offending mod you can try changing the load order of that mod. maybe it works up high in the list, or down low on the list but if changing the load order doesn't fix it then you gotta just remove that mod.

Originally posted by Zotliatlicor:

Try do remove / disable the Start me up part. Your problems seem so similar to how the Tunnel Snakes break, and it seems to be linked to the startup of the game, leaving Vault 111 first time.

try just this suggestion and see if it helps. you could also do it this way, simply disable one mod at a time (the one you think might be the culprit) and do the narrowing down that way.

good luck though, hope you get it sorted

[Zotliatlicor]

Originally posted by ZarahNeander:

Originally posted by Zotliatlicor:

Try do remove / disable the Start me up part. Your problems seem so similar to how the Tunnel Snakes break, and it seems to be linked to the startup of the game, leaving Vault 111 first time.

I use startMeUp sice ages and never had any problems with it

It (TS) messes with Codsworth's dialouge and quest chain which IS a Pre req for any dealings with Preston. At least search the Start me up Forums own FaQ.

Wrong. Both are completely independent quests: 'out of time' is MQ and speaking to Codsworth is entirely optional (in fact I never do). 'when freedom calls' is MM

Yes, my mistake. You can go around Codsworth. And directly to The Museum in Concord, and it should trigger the "museum" MM Quest, and it should proceed as normal. Then you can go back, talk to Codsworth and get him as companion to experience his dialouge with the Trapped Settlers.

But The Tunnel Snake messes all of this up. And OP's game is also messed up. But with a MOD list a mile long i cannot guess otherwise, it just 'sounded' familiar to the Tunnel Snake Trouble.

My best guass is that two standalone mods that work fine by themselves still interact on some scripts or such and cause trouble. I have played with Tunnel Snsakes as *only Mod* and it worked. Next time it did not.

Sorry i cannot help further

[Death51]

This is my first comment ever on steam. I just started a new playthrough about an hour ago. I'm having the exact same issue. Codsworth gets stuck in the first house. Preston won't talk to me from the balcony. I'm using the same mods I've always used.

[Death51]

I tried disabling the fast start mod. You stay locked in the cyro pod after they take Shawn. Gotta be a different one I guess.