.50 caliber is underpowered

[𝔗𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔤𝔲𝔰 𝔄𝔠𝔱𝔲𝔞𝔩𝔦𝔰]

It should be twice more powerful than .308 in terms of armor penetration and overall damage
Real .50BMG can kill an elephant pretty easily thus it should be able to 1 or 2-tap most of non boss enemies in the game
Or at least it should do significantly more damage than all other bullets

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by globefish23:

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

It also doesn't look like he penetrated the steel target or directly hit the balloon on it.

Lesson learned:
Wear a steel helmet and keep a distance of 914 meters, and you won't get a headshot.

Well, that's kind of what this topic is about. When a real 50 BMG hits an unarmored, fleshy target it almost disintegrates it. It will blow a limb off or put a hole the size of a grapefruit in you. Headshots need not apply.

[Insano-Man]

Originally posted by sascomander:

secretly its only .50 GI not bmg. Thats why its so underpowered

This might've been a joke answer, but it sounds about the closest to how the .50 in the game actually fits and feels.

The ammo boxes claim it as 290gr, when the lightest load my basic Wikipedia check can come up for the .50BMG is over twice that. Likewise, the idea of fitting a full-length .50BMG round in a hunting rifle is patently absurd, given the cartridge's dimensions. There's also nothing that specifically states it's a .50BMG round - or .50MG, as New Vegas titled it - and not just some nondescript cartridge with the same caliber.

I don't feel that exonerates Bethesda of being clueless about what people are going to think when they see ".50", or that it cannot be fired out of any unmodified weapon in the vanilla game, but it's an explanation.

[𝔗𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔤𝔲𝔰 𝔄𝔠𝔱𝔲𝔞𝔩𝔦𝔰]

Originally posted by Insano-Man:

Originally posted by sascomander:

secretly its only .50 GI not bmg. Thats why its so underpowered

This might've been a joke answer, but it sounds about the closest to how the .50 in the game actually fits and feels.

The ammo boxes claim it as 290gr, when the lightest load my basic Wikipedia check can come up for the .50BMG is over twice that. Likewise, the idea of fitting a full-length .50BMG round in a hunting rifle is patently absurd, given the cartridge's dimensions. There's also nothing that specifically states it's a .50BMG round - or .50MG, as New Vegas titled it - and not just some nondescript cartridge with the same caliber.

I don't feel that exonerates Bethesda of being clueless about what people are going to think when they see ".50", or that it cannot be fired out of any unmodified weapon in the vanilla game, but it's an explanation.

anyway a 290gr .50 bullet is still much heavier than a .308 s it should do significantly more damage

[ghpstage]

Nothing is balanced in this game, little if any logic was applied towards that end.... nor does Bethesda do realism.

[ErzPaladin]

Originally posted by ghpstage:

Nothing is balanced in this game, little if any logic was applied towards that end.... nor does Bethesda do realism.

Wouldn't wonder if there is a mod for this. What does this...

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/50111

... caliber complex-mod actually do? (6,8 mm SPEAR? Must I know, what this means? xDDD)

[𝔗𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔤𝔲𝔰 𝔄𝔠𝔱𝔲𝔞𝔩𝔦𝔰]

Originally posted by ghpstage:

Nothing is balanced in this game, little if any logic was applied towards that end.... nor does Bethesda do realism.

Well at least there are mods that rebalance stuff
Because IMHO everything except realism and balance in weapons/armor and some grindness is fine here
Game is definitely good but thsi crappy balance ruins the fun quite a bit
I'm laughing of myself when I shoot a raider with a unmodded .50 and see his healthbar drop by 1/3-1/2, instantly turn around and open fire
It's fine that wepaons do low damage to fictional monsters but to humans...

[bLaCkShAd0w]

Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

Originally posted by Insano-Man:

This might've been a joke answer, but it sounds about the closest to how the .50 in the game actually fits and feels.

The ammo boxes claim it as 290gr, when the lightest load my basic Wikipedia check can come up for the .50BMG is over twice that. Likewise, the idea of fitting a full-length .50BMG round in a hunting rifle is patently absurd, given the cartridge's dimensions. There's also nothing that specifically states it's a .50BMG round - or .50MG, as New Vegas titled it - and not just some nondescript cartridge with the same caliber.

I don't feel that exonerates Bethesda of being clueless about what people are going to think when they see ".50", or that it cannot be fired out of any unmodified weapon in the vanilla game, but it's an explanation.

anyway a 290gr .50 bullet is still much heavier than a .308 s it should do significantly more damage

Bullet weight is not the metric for damage.

Weight and velocity both determine impact energy.

180gr .308 can hit much harder than 225gr .308 for example (max powder load each).
Yet people seem to think bigger is always better for some reason.

But its just a game after all.

The rifle has bolt cutaways and no bolt for example... much bigger issues than a weak 50 cal when you are talking about reality.

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Originally posted by bLaCkShAd0w:

Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

anyway a 290gr .50 bullet is still much heavier than a .308 s it should do significantly more damage

Bullet weight is not the metric for damage.

Weight and velocity both determine impact energy.

180gr .308 can hit much harder than 225gr .308 for example (max powder load each).
Yet people seem to think bigger is always better for some reason.

But its just a game after all.

The rifle has bolt cutaways and no bolt for example... much bigger issues than a weak 50 cal when you are talking about reality.

You can find realistic reasons to defend the game but still a .50 cal is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥' 50 cal
It's supposed to be more powerful than .308
It's just pointless to have a .50 upgrade for the .308 rifle if it does like about 15% more damage
This is a sign of very bad balance

[Elon's 15th Bastard]

Originally posted by BlackTemplar:

Ever wonder why your rounds only travel a few dozen meters and everyones a bullet sponge??? 200 yo powders bad. After around 10 years powder starts losing its pop. It will still burn but its more like flash paper than a furious pop.
Slow burn = Low velocity and not enough muzzel force after ignition. "The push of the pressure after fiering"

I think it's implied that the Gun Runners from NV and a few unspoken other groups have repaired some of the weapons manufacturing plants.

[faiszett]

Fallout New Vegas ftw.

[Zes]

Ah the realism.. speaking of which, I love how snipers hit targets by shooting at the 'center' in scopes..

trajectory is a curved path actually and not to mention travelling time..

anyone who hasn't served army yet and played lots of shooter games, is probably thinking "i'm very good at sniping.. maybe i should serve as sharpshooter hehe"

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Originally posted by Zes:

Ah the realism.. speaking of which, I love how snipers hit targets by shooting at the 'center' in scopes..

trajectory is a curved path actually and not to mention travelling time..

anyone who hasn't served army yet and played lots of shooter games, is probably thinking "i'm very good at sniping.. maybe i should serve as sharpshooter hehe"

Most of gunfights including sniping happen at maximum 100-200m distance here where bullet drop is almost nonexistent

[Zes]

Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

Originally posted by Zes:

Ah the realism.. speaking of which, I love how snipers hit targets by shooting at the 'center' in scopes..

trajectory is a curved path actually and not to mention travelling time..

anyone who hasn't served army yet and played lots of shooter games, is probably thinking "i'm very good at sniping.. maybe i should serve as sharpshooter hehe"

Most of gunfights including sniping happen at maximum 100-200m distance here where bullet drop is almost nonexistent

What are you trying to prove? Are you saying it is realistic?

[𝔗𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔤𝔲𝔰 𝔄𝔠𝔱𝔲𝔞𝔩𝔦𝔰]

Originally posted by Zes:

Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

Most of gunfights including sniping happen at maximum 100-200m distance here where bullet drop is almost nonexistent

What are you trying to prove? Are you saying it is realistic?

Same question to you:what are you trying to prove?

[Zes]

Originally posted by $ D@rk Re@per $:

Originally posted by Zes:

What are you trying to prove? Are you saying it is realistic?

Same question to you:what are you trying to prove?

you havent answered my question.

do you always try to answer questions with question..? especially when you have no point?