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ArchAngelLnK Oct 30, 2021 @ 10:58pm
Two Headed Creatures Anger Me.
I'm annoyed that Bethesda went and made every Radstag with two heads now Brahmins are grandfathered in but why do all Radstags have two heads yet Wild Dogs don't H3LL not even Mutant Hounds have two Heads and IDK what they even are now I get that some Creatures would have two heads I get that but why, why it bugs the fck out of me.
Originally posted by steventirey:
The gazelles and brahmiluff in Nuka World also have two heads, which shows a pattern. Herbivores/prey animals (cows/deer/gazelles) have two heads while carnivore/predator (bears, dogs/wolves) animals have one.

Though there are exceptions. Bighorners (goats from New Vegas) only have a single head
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steventirey Oct 30, 2021 @ 11:31pm 
The gazelles and brahmiluff in Nuka World also have two heads, which shows a pattern. Herbivores/prey animals (cows/deer/gazelles) have two heads while carnivore/predator (bears, dogs/wolves) animals have one.

Though there are exceptions. Bighorners (goats from New Vegas) only have a single head
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Bored Peon Oct 30, 2021 @ 11:56pm 
Mutant hounds were bioengineered by the Greentek working for the Enclave to chase down escaped FEV experiment subjects in pre-war Hunstville, Appalachia. They were created to sniff out the FEV pheromones or something which is why they are attracted to super mutants.
ArchAngelLnK Oct 31, 2021 @ 12:10am 
I doubt that Bethesda put in the thought of Herbivores/Carnivores and the Head thing Bethesda being somewhat lazy about Fallout Lore but I'll accept it for now, still bugs me though.

Have not played Fallout 76 as of yet but again Bethesda is lazy with Fallout so IDK if they had 76's lore ahead of time or if they just rushed to fix their lazy stories.
ArchAngelLnK Oct 31, 2021 @ 12:11am 
Don't get me wrong though I love Fallout even... Brotherhood Of Steel is a Fallout to me:)
Bored Peon Oct 31, 2021 @ 12:21am 
Originally posted by ArchAngelLnK:
I doubt that Bethesda put in the thought of Herbivores/Carnivores and the Head thing Bethesda being somewhat lazy about Fallout Lore but I'll accept it for now, still bugs me though.
Well you have to remember Bethesda bought a franchise that had lore. Eventually they decided that lore needed a fresh coat of paint. Which can be kinda on the rough side while trying to get out of corner they got painted into with creating a retroactive contradiction.

Originally posted by ArchAngelLnK:
Have not played Fallout 76 as of yet but again Bethesda is lazy with Fallout so IDK if they had 76's lore ahead of time or if they just rushed to fix their lazy stories.
If you are into the lore and background stories of an area then you have to play Fallout 76 at least once. Every majorish area has like both a pre-war and post war story going on. To me it was by far one of the best written of the four by Bethesda. It also painted a much clearer picture of the pre-war Enclave activities rather than just some obscure terminal entries.
Fumo Bnnuy n Frends Oct 31, 2021 @ 12:24am 
Originally posted by ArchAngelLnK:
I'm annoyed that Bethesda went and made every Radstag with two heads now Brahmins are grandfathered in but why do all Radstags have two heads yet Wild Dogs don't H3LL not even Mutant Hounds have two Heads and IDK what they even are now I get that some Creatures would have two heads I get that but why, why it bugs the ♥♥♥ out of me.
must be a mammal thing or something

since dogs have fur and brahmin and deer don't
DouglasGrave Oct 31, 2021 @ 12:35am 
Originally posted by Fumo Friend:
Originally posted by ArchAngelLnK:
I'm annoyed that Bethesda went and made every Radstag with two heads now Brahmins are grandfathered in but why do all Radstags have two heads yet Wild Dogs don't H3LL not even Mutant Hounds have two Heads and IDK what they even are now I get that some Creatures would have two heads I get that but why, why it bugs the ♥♥♥ out of me.
must be a mammal thing or something

since dogs have fur and brahmin and deer don't
Brahmin and deer are both mammals, and the real-life animals do have mammalian hair on their hides, along with external ear structures, mammary glands for producing milk, and other typical mammal stuff.

I don't really get the objection myself, since it just seems like different mutant animals having different forms. Dogs are relatively normal or missing their skin, brahmin have two heads, radstags have both two heads and an extra pair of vestigial legs.
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ArchAngelLnK Oct 31, 2021 @ 1:14am 
If you are into the lore and background stories of an area then you have to play Fallout 76 at least once. Every majorish area has like both a pre-war and post war story going on. To me it was by far one of the best written of the four by Bethesda. It also painted a much clearer picture of the pre-war Enclave activities rather than just some obscure terminal entries. [/quote]

I will play 76 at some point but I'm really getting into Fallout 4 again right now and then I might try Fallout 3 on PC for the first time played Fallout 3 on Xbox before so I'm really looking forward to it on PC what with the new Update and all for Fallout 3.

but yes I will 100% play Fallout 76 I cant not whit how much I love the Games I even like Fallout Brotherhood Of Steel and most people don't even think of that game as a Fallout game at all, for me It was rough but still an okay game considering what it was and all.
xybolt Oct 31, 2021 @ 1:43am 
I have to admit that it bugs me a bit but I can ignore it. The two-head "mutation" is less likely to occur than having a mutated ears. A designer (or two) just considered having two-head radstag more "aligning" to a radioactive Fallout world.
wtiger27 Oct 31, 2021 @ 5:48am 
I do not know why a two headed animal would anger anyone in a science fiction fantasy game.

The only creatures which annoy me in the game are the large bugs flying around. But even them, do not make me mad. I deal with them.
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hawkeye Oct 31, 2021 @ 7:31am 
The brahmin in the game are a dig at the real Boston brahmins, who were the self-proclaimed aristocracy. Two heads - maybe to reflect the way that the families inter-married and due to inbreeding wound up with two heads, maybe to reflect the way that they supported the Revolution but actually held English ways dear to the heart. Many Boston place names are the locations in England where the brahmin families emigrated from or brahmin family names.

The trough that you build for them in the game is a reference to "having one's snout in the trough". In other words, living a life where what you do is all about attaining and keeping personal wealth. In the game you can assign a settler (servant) to look after them. Many made their money from dubious sources e.g. drugs (opium) and military equipment (cannons for the Civil War which is why they might have got a mention in the game). And so on. The supply brahmins are loaded to the hilt with maybe personal possessions. You often see them speeding around the streets in the game.

So the two heads are probably just satire.

Cabot, Sturgis, Boylston are brahmin names. Note how Sturgis tells you what to do in Sanctuary. I think the Boylston club in the game has a group of brahmin deciding to hit the bottle when the bombs fell. Codman is probably a reference to the fish which was a major source of brahmin wealth. etc
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steventirey Oct 31, 2021 @ 8:09am 
Originally posted by hawkeye:
The brahmin in the game are a dig at the real Boston brahmins, who were the self-proclaimed aristocracy.

Brahmin have been in the game since Fallout 1, set in California and made by an entirely different company. Their name comes from the fact they are mutated from the Indian variant of brahman cattle. They have nothing to do with anything you mentioned.
Last edited by steventirey; Oct 31, 2021 @ 8:12am
Löthar Storm Oct 31, 2021 @ 9:03am 
Originally posted by steventirey:
Originally posted by hawkeye:
The brahmin in the game are a dig at the real Boston brahmins, who were the self-proclaimed aristocracy.

Brahmin have been in the game since Fallout 1, set in California and made by an entirely different company. Their name comes from the fact they are mutated from the Indian variant of brahman cattle. They have nothing to do with anything you mentioned.

Aware of the Brahmin lore in the Fallout series as well. Gave Boston Brahmins subject matter a quick read through (wikipedia), seems to be interesting coincidences however.
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