Home Plate.

[sigmapsidelta]

Just two questions:

I have large numbers of weapons and armour in chests and such in Home Plate, not to mention my entire collection of legendary items. Are items stored in there safe from access by anyone else?

Diamond City is not offered as an option when assigning a provisioner. Is it possible to hook Home Plate into the settlement provisioning system?
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[wtiger27]

First question: The only really safe way to keep weapons, gear, etc. safe for storage is to use a mannequin. For some odd reason, no npc will take anything from them. Thanks to Douglas Grave for that tip.

Second: There is no way ( other than maybe a outside source mod ) to set up a supply line to Home Plate.

[sigmapsidelta]

I just can't think of anyone who could access Home Plate except perhaps the Mayor. And why risk irritating the power armoured owner of a huge arsenal and a fearsome reputation when you already have something to hide?

Pity about the provisioning connection. Its such a convenient place to dump junk into the bench.
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[kharille]

I used to dump a lot of stuff there in my normal playthrough. Now I'm playing survival I put all the useless legendaries there.

Yeah, would be appropriate if you could get codsworth to station there, and supply line to hangmans.

[steventirey]

I have large numbers of weapons and armour in chests and such in Home Plate, not to mention my entire collection of legendary items. Are items stored in there safe from access by anyone else?

Keeping things in Home Plate is totally safe. No one but you (and your active companion) enters there as its not a full settlement, so no attackers or settlers to loot anything.

Diamond City is not offered as an option when assigning a provisioner. Is it possible to hook Home Plate into the settlement provisioning system?

Not without mods. Home Plate isn't considered a full settlement (its workbench isn't the same thing as you find in a normal settlement, just similar). Mods making Home Plate a full settlement can also open it up to attack, so other mods just link the workshop inventory of Home Plate with another settlement, like Hangmans Alley. Basically, it mods in an unmanned, unseen provisoner route.

Originally posted by wtiger27:

First question: The only really safe way to keep weapons, gear, etc. safe for storage is to use a mannequin. For some odd reason, no npc will take anything from them. Thanks to Douglas Grave for that tip.

As far as the game is concerned, mannequins are not containers but stationary NPCs. Thats why you can equip things on them. Its also why, at least in Skyrim (and possibly Fallout 4) they sometimes bug out and start moving.

[sdack]

1.) Yes... 2.) No... 3.) Do not be a hoarder!

[The Inept European]

The only way you could lose an item to looting in Home Plate is if a hostile NPC got in there. That would be either a hostile NPC from DC pursuing you into Home Plate (I think I've seen this happen once but can't prove it) or if you dismissed a companion inside Home Plate and aggro'd them before they exited. Another way is spawn a synth inside Home Plate when you are hostile to the Institute.

In other words you would have to work really hard to arrange to get looted in Home Plate.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by steventirey:

I have large numbers of weapons and armour in chests and such in Home Plate, not to mention my entire collection of legendary items. Are items stored in there safe from access by anyone else?

Keeping things in Home Plate is totally safe. No one but you (and your active companion) enters there as its not a full settlement, so no attackers or settlers to loot anything.

Diamond City is not offered as an option when assigning a provisioner. Is it possible to hook Home Plate into the settlement provisioning system?

Originally posted by wtiger27:

First question: The only really safe way to keep weapons, gear, etc. safe for storage is to use a mannequin. For some odd reason, no npc will take anything from them. Thanks to Douglas Grave for that tip.

As far as the game is concerned, mannequins are not containers but stationary NPCs. Thats why you can equip things on them. Its also why, at least in Skyrim (and possibly Fallout 4) they sometimes bug out and start moving.

I have never seen them bug out. My thoughts are, the mannequins are made for display, so the player can show off ( to himself ) some unique armor sets he/she has collected.
The game therefore, marks them as none loot-able item from npc's.

But that is just a theory and I can not prove it. But it makes sense they would do that with mannequins. What I know for sure, it works. So far.

[steventirey]

Originally posted by wtiger27:

I have never seen them bug out. My thoughts are, the mannequins are made for display, so the player can show off ( to himself ) some unique armor sets he/she has collected.
The game therefore, marks them as none loot-able item from npc's.

But that is just a theory and I can not prove it. But it makes sense they would do that with mannequins. What I know for sure, it works. So far.

I've never seen the Fallout ones bug out, but have seen the Skyrim ones do so. Its not a common thing, but does happen. As for being meant for display and therefore made non-lootable, the weapon displays are meant for display as well and are totally lootable. All containers are lootable, but mannequins are not containers.

[Schrute_Farms_B&B]

Ive always stored my valuable items in a common floor safe and never experienced any item loss. But then again, how would one notice if you dont pay attention and own a ton of items.
Same thing with Power Armors and fusion cores.
Did I miss something ?

[steventirey]

Originally posted by Schrute_Farms_B&B:

Ive always stored my valuable items in a common floor safe and never experienced any item loss. But then again, how would one notice if you dont pay attention and own a ton of items.
Same thing with Power Armors and fusion cores.
Did I miss something ?

In the event of a settlement attack, if you are there or somewhere close enough for the settlement to be loaded, settlers may try to get a better weapon than what they currently have in their inventory provided there is some ammo for it in their inventory or in a container in the settlement. Also, attackers can do the same (and steal some other stuff from the workshop, I think). The weapon/ammo can be in your workshop, in any container, in a display item, or just lying on the ground.

The same applies to power armor. If there is a core in a settler's (or attackers) inventory, in the suit, or in a container in the settlement they may try to take the armor during an attack.

In both cases, its not guaranteed and you have to actually be near by. If you never go to the settlement while its under attack, nothing will be missing. (Aside from whatever materials are needed to repair anything that got damaged.)

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

Originally posted by sigmapsidelta:

Just two questions:

I have large numbers of weapons and armour in chests and such in Home Plate, not to mention my entire collection of legendary items. Are items stored in there safe from access by anyone else?

Diamond City is not offered as an option when assigning a provisioner. Is it possible to hook Home Plate into the settlement provisioning system?
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1. No. Player owned bases are different than player owned settlements. There is actually a couple of mods on nexus that have the different tags. The difference being that settlements any npc can go into it and grab stuff from the workbench or stored stuff sometimes.
Player owned bases only the player and any companions you have with you. Usually you can't send any settlers or companions there. They will also not have the little settlement bar that shows the stats like building limit, happiness, water, food, etc. So no don't worry they shouldn't be taken or stolen. Infact most items aren't taken or stolen unless you leave them in red workbench. Also any power armors with fusion cores left inside them will be taken by any nearby npcs or settlers.

2. look at 1. You can't assign npcs companions settlers or provisioners to home plate. It's a player base not a player settlement.

[The Inept European]

Regarding attacks - in addition to enemy (and friendly) NPCs looting weapons to use themselves during an attended fight, if you lose an unattended fight, random items from inventory will be looted.

Note that during a fight, NPCs can also loot from dead NPCs. Usually this doesn't apply to your own NPCs (unless you kill them yourself) because they're not killable by enemies.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by steventirey:

Originally posted by wtiger27:

I have never seen them bug out. My thoughts are, the mannequins are made for display, so the player can show off ( to himself ) some unique armor sets he/she has collected.
The game therefore, marks them as none loot-able item from npc's.

But that is just a theory and I can not prove it. But it makes sense they would do that with mannequins. What I know for sure, it works. So far.

I've never seen the Fallout ones bug out, but have seen the Skyrim ones do so. Its not a common thing, but does happen. As for being meant for display and therefore made non-lootable, the weapon displays are meant for display as well and are totally lootable. All containers are lootable, but mannequins are not containers.

Of course they are lootable for the player. But not all things are for the npc's it appears. That was my point. But good point on the weapon displays. They are not safe.

I watched a YouTube video where the author did a series of tests to see what containers the settlers would loot during a attack to get a better weapon. The only things they would not loot was a mannequin and a locked container.

Of course it takes a console command to lock a container if you are on a PC, unless there is a mod which does it for all platform players.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by The Ex-ept European:

Regarding attacks - in addition to enemy (and friendly) NPCs looting weapons to use themselves during an attended fight, if you lose an unattended fight, random items from inventory will be looted.

Note that during a fight, NPCs can also loot from dead NPCs. Usually this doesn't apply to your own NPCs (unless you kill them yourself) because they're not killable by enemies.

Very true. I found I lost some items I had stored in the workshop after I failed to defend it from a attack.

[Jon_Smith]

Isn't it pretty easy to stop settlers from looting containers simply by splitting stuff up? Like if you put your ammo in one container and your weapons in another the AI isn't smart enough to grab a gun from one and ammo from the other?

Worst they'll do is steal your stash of enraging rolling pins.