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The Nameless Feb 25, 2021 @ 8:57pm
Do ghouls need to eat?
So we have a ghoul kid stuck in a fridge for 200 years. Non-working fridge, I might add. I doubt the casserole lasted that long. We have feral ghouls trapped in buildings from which they can't possibly have been escaping to secure a food supply. We have food supplies in these buildings which aren't locked up and which have not been consumed despite the presence of ferals.

On the other hand, we have the Duty or Dishonor Brotherhood quest, in which Initiate Clarke steals food to feed the ferals, they eat the food, they fight over the food, and they get violent when they can't access the food, demonstrating that they do eat.

I'm detecting a little bit of inconsistency here. Do they actually need food, or not? Do they just eat people because they feel hungry, but survive just fine on radiation even when there's no food? What's the deal here?
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Alucard † Feb 25, 2021 @ 10:04pm 
Originally posted by unweptbuzzard16:
Can you two please stop. The "insults" you guys are arguing about are very mellow

Don't worry i'm done i was just showing this troll exactly how he was before this thread when i tried a civil discussion with him after he attempted to do this again here aswell but in more passive-aggressive manner without direct insults from his side this time.
Last edited by Alucard †; Feb 25, 2021 @ 10:06pm
unweptbuzzard16 Feb 25, 2021 @ 10:06pm 
Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:
Originally posted by unweptbuzzard16:
Can you two please stop. The "insults" you guys are arguing about are very mellow

Don't worry i'm done i was just showing this troll exactly how he was before when i tried a civil discussion with him after he attempted to do this again but in more passive-aggressive manner this time due to his fear of getting in trouble for his behavior again.
I have been there too, you probably read my post on this thread bout the fascism debate
Leslian Lexter Feb 25, 2021 @ 10:28pm 
ITT: Edgelords trying to out-edge each other
Fumo Bnnuy n Frends Feb 25, 2021 @ 10:30pm 
bethesda can never ever keep the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lore on point even obsidian devs though dropped the ball on ghouls

i think it depends.

If you're still a non feral sane ghoul they need to eat like people. As seen in the ghouls that run the bars and stores and the ghoul inside the rocket facility in new vegas where when asked how he made it he says "I'm not proud of it but I ate radroaches to survive".

feral ghouls imo are like literal zombies. They sleep and just basically be dead shut down to avoid moving and only go towards a moving person or thing when somethings near enough to avoid using energy.

The overseer though you see food for her never small dog bowls or bowls for her feral ghoul occupants.

Also the whole scrapped idea of the original fallouts in 2D bird's eye view that they would've had ghoul babies and ghouls would reproduce.



I wanna say them NEEDING to eat isn't cannon. They do if they can but if not they just wander around endlessly or just sleep until you kick a can by accident.

You have people like Eddie winter too who are just in a bunker. I doubt highly that 200 years+ without food resupplies or water would affect him much. He's still able to fight and his bunker has never ever been opened until you find the tapes to the access code.



like there's nothing with ghouls, feral, that shows that they need to eat to survive. I could be wrong though since you find tons of dead ghouls all around the commonwealth.

I think it's left to chance unlike super mutants who eat people and anything else they can kill even each other. You see all those meat bags around their compounds and strong even gives you meats he pulls randomly out of his ass from nowhere.
Last edited by Fumo Bnnuy n Frends; Feb 25, 2021 @ 10:33pm
unweptbuzzard16 Feb 25, 2021 @ 10:30pm 
Originally posted by Harry Gun:
ITT: Edgelords trying to out-edge each other
I'm so edegy that I'm literally untouchable
unweptbuzzard16 Feb 25, 2021 @ 10:33pm 
Originally posted by Red Bell Pepper Vampire:
bethesda can never ever keep the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lore on point even obsidian devs though dropped the ball on ghouls

i think it depends.

If you're still a non feral sane ghoul they need to eat like people. As seen in the ghouls that run the bars and stores and the ghoul inside the rocket facility in new vegas where when asked how he made it he says "I'm not proud of it but I ate radroaches to survive".

feral ghouls imo are like literal zombies. They sleep and just basically be dead shut down to avoid moving and only go towards a moving person or thing when somethings near enough to avoid using energy.

The overseer though you see food for her never small dog bowls or bowls for her feral ghoul occupants.

Also the whole scrapped idea of the original fallouts in 2D bird's eye view that they would've had ghoul babies and ghouls would reproduce.



I wanna say them NEEDING to eat isn't cannon. They do if they can but if not they just wander around endlessly or just sleep until you kick a can by accident.
What are you talking about, bethesda is very good with lore with only a few instances such as this. Adding to lore doesnt mean it's not cannon, fo4 power armor is Canon because nothing in lore contradicts it. Super mutant dogs aren't lore breaking because nothing contradits it. Billy the kid DOES contradict established lore. Don't get me started on how many times obsidian has broke lore
Last edited by unweptbuzzard16; Feb 25, 2021 @ 10:34pm
Fumo Bnnuy n Frends Feb 25, 2021 @ 10:36pm 
Imo they should've added somewhere a mini terminal entry or small scene where you see a ghoul starve to death or have some wandering around that starve and die. I know we see some eating people or each other but never see them just die from not eating.
Sevrojin Feb 25, 2021 @ 11:11pm 
Ghouls Do not need to eat this is canon lore.

Billy is far from the only ghoul found in a place with zero access to food in fallout 4
Originally posted by Sevrojin:
Ghouls Do not need to eat this is canon lore.

Billy is far from the only ghoul found in a place with zero access to food in fallout 4
bruh
the whole place he was in was a food storage.


but yeah. Seems the ghouls probably died from something else then that you find dead. They died fresh too since they're not skeletons yet.
oh there's also the slave ghouls used by the enclave in fallout 2. They've got basically no food or water and just work them to death.
Inu~ Feb 26, 2021 @ 2:16am 
Why would ghouls need to frequently eat/drink/sleep/breath if their metabolism is slow enough to let them survive for more than 200 years? You would expect them to only do so when storing nutrients for long periods of time.

About the ferals, isnt it just the dopamines kicking in when you eat something tasty?
The Nameless Feb 26, 2021 @ 11:15pm 
Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:
Originally posted by unweptbuzzard16:
Can you two please stop. The "insults" you guys are arguing about are very mellow

Don't worry i'm done i was just showing this troll exactly how he was before this thread when i tried a civil discussion with him after he attempted to do this again here aswell but in more passive-aggressive manner without direct insults from his side this time.

All I attempted to do here is start a thread. You came here and started screwing with me; I never asked you to post here. In fact, I've been avoiding replying to you and I only did it here because you were the very FIRST person to respond to the thread.

All you've showed me is that you're the kind of guy who stalks people from thread to thread, abuses them, claims they're the trolls, reports them to the moderators, calls them names when they do it back, and brings in alts pretending they're other people supporting you...

Wait, that sounds like (gasp) A TROLL!
Last edited by The Nameless; Feb 26, 2021 @ 11:32pm
Alucard † Feb 26, 2021 @ 11:40pm 
Nice pot calling kettle black and trying to play victim again.

Totally my fault that you got in trouble back then for your abusive behavior insulting and acting hostile towards people for no reason. And then twisting their words and playing victim

Nah its totally big bad Alucard and his non existant alts. Btw accussations like these don't work if you have no proof. And claims pulled out of your rectum don't count as proof.
Alucard † Feb 26, 2021 @ 11:48pm 
Also i came here to talk about ghouls like i mentioned. Like anyone with a brain can tell from first few posts here.

I didnt even recall your nickname untill you started replying with your jabs towards me like you have some sort of personal grudge and then whining that you cant insult me while i again act in defense lol quick post history comes along way if a troll is so insignifficant i forget them.

Seems you are really salty for something that you initially started... While i don't even bother reporting likes of you let alone remember your name.

Keep reminding me of the type person you really are and you will keep getting reactions like these.

Let it go and i'll forget about it.
Simple
Last edited by Alucard †; Feb 26, 2021 @ 11:54pm
The Nameless Feb 26, 2021 @ 11:54pm 
Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:
started*

You mean, let it go so you can safely claim victory.

No, I'm not really interested in reading what you say, because I know it's just more "post truth" garbage blaming it all on me in denial of all reality (and of course you'll now borrow that and accuse me of it like everything else), but I'm not going anywhere. I'll keep this up until you get bored and take off or they ban one of us.
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