What's with Honest Dan?

[The Nameless]

Second time I bothered with the Covenant subplot. I get all the way to the end, talk to the girl to rescue her, and Honest Dan tells me "the job was to RESCUE them, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!" and attacks me. Once again, I do NOT have the targeting mod on my power armor. It even happens when I exit my power armor, whenever I approach the girl.

[=EGC= kansasterry]

You may have to avoid talking to her until after opening the cell.

[The Nameless]

Originally posted by =EGC= kansasterry:

You may have to avoid talking to her until after opening the cell.

Actually the first time it happened was after I opened the cell. I can't approach her at ALL. Finally solved by opening the cell from the terminal and avoiding her entirely. Talked to Honest Dan, quest complete.

[The Inept European]

Yeah that's only supposed to happen when you side with Doctor Evil lady. What did you do in the dialog with her? You're supposed to (forced to) do that dialog first. Unless you just kill her (the doctor).

[The Nameless]

Originally posted by The Inept Ex-European:

Yeah that's only supposed to happen when you side with Doctor Evil lady. What did you do in the dialog with her? You're supposed to (forced to) do that dialog first. Unless you just kill her (the doctor).

I turned down her bribe and shot her in the face.

[The Inept European]

Well you passed the test for being one of the good guys. Dan should be on your side.

At what point does he attack? After you open the cell?

Any chance you didn't anything to turn the girl hostile? Like kill her or shoot her? Could she, or Dan, have been hit by stray fire or explosions when you were killing Dr Evil?

[The Nameless]

Originally posted by The Inept Ex-European:

Well you passed the test for being one of the good guys. Dan should be on your side.

At what point does he attack? After you open the cell?

Any chance you didn't anything to turn the girl hostile? Like kill her or shoot her? Could she, or Dan, have been hit by stray fire or explosions when you were killing Dr Evil?

I approach her to the point where she talks to me, whether the cell is open or not. No, she's not hostile. Dan says his line, goes hostile, and starts shooting at me while she begs me to let her out or thanks me because I did it already. Then, either immediately or after I ignore Dan and open the cell while keeps shooting, she runs out of the compound, still not hostile. Dan stays hostile until I shoot him.

[The Inept European]

Dan can be flaky and all the quest logic and faction logic in that quest is kind of flaky. But it's not obvious to me exactly what's gone wrong there.

You are lucky at least that at the point he's gone hostile he's also become killable. If he goes hostile prior to the conversation with Dr Evil, he is hostile and unkillable, and will pursue you to the ends of the earth like an undead revenant hell-bent ok revenge. So it could be worse.

[The Nameless]

Originally posted by The Inept Ex-European:

Dan can be flaky and all the quest logic and faction logic in that quest is kind of flaky. But it's not obvious to me exactly what's gone wrong there.

You are lucky at least that at the point he's gone hostile he's also become killable. If he goes hostile prior to the conversation with Dr Evil, he is hostile and unkillable, and will pursue you to the ends of the earth like an undead revenant hell-bent ok revenge. So it could be worse.

True dat. At least I discovered that I don't have to talk to the girl in the cage at all. Although that still leaves the problem of the fact that there's loot all over Covenant, and if I get caught picking any of it up even though I own Covenant now, Deezer will make me blast him and I won't get any more lemonade. T.T

[The Inept European]

Fully fixing Covenant is pretty much impossible. UFO4P tries but fails. The only way for Covenant to be useable is to turn a blind eye to the missing girl, or actually join the bad guys.

[EolSunder]

ah just kill them all, bunch of murderers with a god complex, buried 6 feet under is whats best for them.

[The Inept European]

Sure, I agree, but it leaves the settlement more or less unusable.

[The Nameless]

Originally posted by The Inept Ex-European:

Sure, I agree, but it leaves the settlement more or less unusable.

I'm going to go with 'less'. it's not unusable, it's just not all there and is a pain in the ass to get going. I killed them all because they were a bunch of wackos, but I'll just loot Covenant (in stealth) and leave it empty except for Deezer.

Meanwhile, I just realized that most of my steel comes from can chimes. How many of you have built your settlements primarily out of tin cans?

[The Inept European]

It's possible yes, but I would say a settlement where the turrets are liable to go hostile on you without warning is on the 'more' side of more or less unusable.

[The Nameless]

Originally posted by The Inept Ex-European:

It's possible yes, but I would say a settlement where the turrets are liable to go hostile on you without warning is on the 'more' side of more or less unusable.

That's hard for them to do when I blew them all up anyway. If I built new defenses (not in the same place as the old ones, since they don't despawn; I'd have to build them outside the wall) they wouldn't do that.

[Ellorien]

Originally posted by The Inept Ex-European:

Fully fixing Covenant is pretty much impossible. UFO4P tries but fails. The only way for Covenant to be useable is to turn a blind eye to the missing girl, or actually join the bad guys.

First of all, it is a matter of perspective who is the bad guy here. I personally prefer to side with the Covenant Folks because my character and I believe that synthetic life is an abomination. Therefore the people who want to get rid of synths are good guys in my book. There is no “missing girl”, just a talking toaster. Totally disposable. Even her “father” never thanks you for saving her if you bother to murder 30 humans to save one robot.
Dan is just a lazy merc, not a good guy by any definition. He is there for money, not because he is a bleeding heart liberator or whatever, and he can’t even do his job himself. Dan becomes a corpse #54378965432 as soon as we reach the crazy lady.

Second, It is not impossible to fix Covenant. It is actually very easy.

I just place my own turret nearby. It automatically destroys the Covenant turrets (I move it around until all Covenant turrets are down, takes couple minutes). Then I collect valuable ammo and use console to dispose of the remains. After everything is clear I place my own turrets on the platforms. Done.