Ballistic weave

[Druss]

This stuff seems way overpowered. I never , in the past, bothered much with the railroad but this time I thought Id give it a go.

My defense went from 120 odd to 384 with an Armoured Fedora & military Fatigues - I dont even have decent outer armour (only 2 of the destroyer set) At this rate I can face a deathclaw and go and make a cup of tea.

I dont bother with Power Armour as I generally go stealth.

I'm only at Lv 40 playing on Hard (about to up that). Is there going to be stuff later on that will provide a challenge?

[Fake]

If you think Ballistic Weave is OP, wait till you find a rapid fire gun or combat shotgun with the Wounding effect.

At lower levels, the wounding effect doesn't shine. Wait till enemies become bullet sponges.

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by Fake:

If you think Ballistic Weave is OP, wait till you find a rapid fire gun or combat shotgun with the Wounding effect.

At lower levels, the wounding effect doesn't shine. Wait till enemies become bullet sponges.

Wounding? Try Explosive Combat shotgun. It's like Fallout 4's version of Infinity Gauntlet.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

then don't use it

it's a single player rpg influenced game.

I reached op'd lvls with the new ballistic weave type mod + other items like 2-3 different piece outfits (all of which can have ballistic weaves at 110 defense give or take).

imo you can actually get high enough stats with ballisitic weave and the right armor pieces like marine armor or heavy combat / heavy synth armor with maxed out mods on them that you won't ever need PA and it's actually detrimental if you use it as if it breaks the armor won't be useable and the armor doesn't stack without mods.

[kharille]

I once swam from, I believe it was the castle to the lighthouse. Ran into 3 supermutants with miniguns. Didn't have enough nuka cola quantums. Had the ballistic weave though.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by Druss:

This stuff seems way overpowered. I never , in the past, bothered much with the railroad but this time I thought Id give it a go.

My defense went from 120 odd to 384 with an Armoured Fedora & military Fatigues - I dont even have decent outer armour (only 2 of the destroyer set) At this rate I can face a deathclaw and go and make a cup of tea.

I dont bother with Power Armour as I generally go stealth.

I'm only at Lv 40 playing on Hard (about to up that). Is there going to be stuff later on that will provide a challenge?

Well nothing makes you use it.

There are Power Armor paints which help with stealth play. Works pretty well. At least the ones from the Creation Club.

Yes, the game is more of a challenge on Very Hard versus Hard. Noticeably more so. I actually found it to be harder than Survival in terms of combat.

[The Inept European]

It's way OP. It's also basically just dumb.

[The Inept European]

Originally posted by Fake:

If you think Ballistic Weave is OP, wait till you find a rapid fire gun or combat shotgun with the Wounding effect.

At lower levels, the wounding effect doesn't shine. Wait till enemies become bullet sponges.

Except you can guarantee getting ballistic weave, you can't guarantee getting any particular random combination of legendary + weapon.

Ballistic weave? Might as well just has an option that turns off the whole DR/ER mechanism and leave it at that.

I recognise there are people who want to watch their character do combat in a bikini. Whatever floats your boat. But it's OP and it's dumb as.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by The Ex-ept European:

Originally posted by Fake:

If you think Ballistic Weave is OP, wait till you find a rapid fire gun or combat shotgun with the Wounding effect.

At lower levels, the wounding effect doesn't shine. Wait till enemies become bullet sponges.

Except you can guarantee getting ballistic weave, you can't guarantee getting any particular random combination of legendary + weapon.

Ballistic weave? Might as well just has an option that turns off the whole DR/ER mechanism and leave it at that.

I recognise there are people who want to watch their character do combat in a bikini. Whatever floats your boat. But it's OP and it's dumb as.

So you do not use it?

Getting it does require some work with the RailRoad and getting the perks to apply them if you want the max benefit.

Getting a explosive Combat Shotgun, is based on luck, as you mentioned. But I am sure you would still use it. Hehe.

[The Inept European]

I don't really like to play with getting or farming random legendaries. There are just too many OP combinations.

I feel guilty even using the Overseer's Guardian.

[BlazeD]

Right around level 40 you are approaching super-hero powers in general anyway. Ballistic weave makes a great hat though. On an outfit the AC is divided between the various locations...with a hat, well, there is only one location =)

[felmari]

high level makes a huge difference as stated i agree.

one thing to consider though is the game is balanced toward power armor.

[EolSunder]

By the time i ever get ballistic weave, i'm already strong enough to handle a half dozen supermutant warlords or tough foes ganking me. High health, good armor, and max stimpack perks let me survive in any mode, combat build or no combat build.

Ballistic weave at that point doesn't increase your armor reduction factor by that much because of the way the game calculates armor. Putting on ballistic weave armor on a newbie with no armor? Sure, it is great. Put it on a high level character with buffed up heavy armor, perks, etc.. Does very little.

[Iskander]

Originally posted by Druss:

I'm only at Lv 40 playing on Hard (about to up that). Is there going to be stuff later on that will provide a challenge?

Not very likely, unfortunately. With or without Ballistic Weave, around level 40/50 (depending on your perks) you will become so powerful that most of the game is very easy. That is part of the game design and the only way to try and delay when that happens, is to not play "optimally". Not taking the best weapons and armor, and not taking the combat perks.

I agree that Ballistic Weave is very good, but it is not the culprit in this situation: it is simply an inevitability. Sooner or later, the game loses its challenge.

[sdack]

This is a matter of self-control. When one finds a game gives one over-powered items then one should not use them instead of stupidly going a long with it. If this is a problem, because the game does not restrict one from using such items then one's lack of self-control is to blame, but not the game for offering it. It is simply a choice one has to make and one should be thankful for having the choice and not being patronised by a game that puts one's character development on rails where nothing can go wrong.

In short, ballistic weave is cool.

[The Inept European]

Interesting idea.

Yes we should exercise self control. Yes it's refreshing to have a game that gives great freedom.

I'm not sure I'm convinced though that a well-designed game should rely on players exercising their willpower to refrain from picking up the +10 magic swords of slaying that are heaped up in bins all around the place?