Fallout New Vegas 2 at E3? June 12th to 15th

[Flippy]

E3 is very soon think so? Maybe?

[Anvos]

Vegas is also one of the least valuable cities in a post Apocalypse even when intact, given it doesn't even have enough water. A half ruined Denver would be far more valuable. Let alone the Legion's anti tech view has likely wrecked any remaining infrastructure to move the power of the Hoover Dam east without a major construction campaign.

The lands I purposed would be far more diverse and avoid New Vegas' problem of being too desert and race track shaped, while still including lands that could be a desert portion of the map. It also makes for a story where the Enclave doesn't have to be the straight bad guy, but one of three flawed but with their own appeal main factions.

[Firehawk]

When I mentioned the Enclave I was talking about Chicago. I've seen nothing solid to indicate that Obsidian or Bethesda would be working on a sequel for New Vegas, and using the Chicago area and possibly a small part of Canada with an E centered story (where the protag might even be a member of the Enclave to twist things around a bit) would mean tapping into an area with a lot of potential. Reusing Vegas without would be a detriment, not a positive to the quality in this case.

[isomorphic_projection]

引用自 Firehawk：

No way, they aren't going to make another New Vegas.

When microsoft, buys up the companies who are responsable for the Fallout games. Bethesda and Obsidian, then sooner or later we will have something new.

[Cardan]

引用自 isomorphic_projection：

引用自 Firehawk：

No way, they aren't going to make another New Vegas.

When microsoft, buys up the companies who are responsable for the Fallout games. Bethesda and Obsidian, then sooner or later we will have something new.

yeah but most of the talent at obsidian who worked on NV have since left the company. if anything microsoft is gonna make a in house studio for fallout and elder scrolls and ♥♥♥♥ them up just like they did my favorite childhood franchises

[isomorphic_projection]

引用自 Cardan：

引用自 isomorphic_projection：

When microsoft, buys up the companies who are responsable for the Fallout games. Bethesda and Obsidian, then sooner or later we will have something new.

yeah but most of the talent at obsidian who worked on NV have since left the company. if anything microsoft is gonna make a in house studio for fallout and elder scrolls and ♥♥♥♥ them up just like they did my favorite childhood franchises

The rights did not leave the company.

[Cardan]

引用自 isomorphic_projection：

引用自 Cardan：

yeah but most of the talent at obsidian who worked on NV have since left the company. if anything microsoft is gonna make a in house studio for fallout and elder scrolls and ♥♥♥♥ them up just like they did my favorite childhood franchises

The rights did not leave the company.

I don't understand, if mircosoft bought zenimax can't they just make bethesda forfeit the rights at any point? or was it part of an agreement or something? regardless now that I think about it bethesda has proven to be just as money grubbing as microsoft in recent years so I'm sure they'll keep them around.

[fluxtorrent]

引用自 Cardan：

引用自 isomorphic_projection：

The rights did not leave the company.

I don't understand, if mircosoft bought zenimax can't they just make bethesda forfeit the rights at any point? or was it part of an agreement or something? regardless now that I think about it bethesda has proven to be just as money grubbing as microsoft in recent years so I'm sure they'll keep them around.

This largely depends on what exactly the terms of the agreement are. But based on what we know, probably not. While Microsoft did aquire zenimax, Bethesda itself is the one who holds the IP. In order to move it around Microsoft would actually have to purchase the IP directly from Bethesda itself. Simply owning a controlling interest in its stock does not mean those assets can be moved about at will. Even in cases where Microsoft HAS purchased IP rights directly they don't generally shuffle IP's between established studios, and are unlikely to change that behavior any time soon. Especially not since they want the individual IP's to make the most amount of money.

They also didn't fold zenimax directly into xbox gaming studios, the holding company for most of their other game studios, it retains much more autonomy than failing studios like Obsidian, that they bought outright and saved from extinction.

[Cardan]

makes sense, when people say microsoft "bought out" zenimax that's kinda what I imagined. it's moreso just making their titles microsoft exclusives then?

[fluxtorrent]

引用自 Cardan：

makes sense, when people say microsoft "bought out" zenimax that's kinda what I imagined. it's moreso just making their titles microsoft exclusives then?

Not necessarily. They will probably do microsoft first launches, but since January a number of titles owned by microsoft have launched on playstation and switch. Before that even though it was owned by microsoft minecraft made it to nearly every platform.

Because zenimax isn't getting looped specifically under xbox game studios I'd suspect they aren't going to alienate their fans by forcing exclusivity. It's possible but it would be a really dumb move to alienate that crowd and reduce how many revenue streams you have incoming.

[Cardan]

yeah making an already existing title that wasn't exclusive before an exclusive now isn't the greatest idea... which reminds me, and I know its off topic but, microsoft has no relationship with gsc game world... yet they are getting stalker 2 3 months before everyone else, whats up with that?

[fluxtorrent]

AFAIK Stalker 2 hasnt got an official release date anywhere yet. I'm also on the fence if the title will be worth it, having all the original devs moved on to a different studio... I hold out hope but im skeptical

[Von Faustien]

引用自 Cardan：

yeah making an already existing title that wasn't exclusive before an exclusive now isn't the greatest idea... which reminds me, and I know its off topic but, microsoft has no relationship with gsc game world... yet they are getting stalker 2 3 months before everyone else, whats up with that?

microsoft didnt orginally have a relathonship with beth but Xbox still got 3s dlcs months before ps3.

consoles sell on exclusives so they offten bribe third parties for either full or timed exclusivity
on either full games or dlc

[Cardan]

yeah me too. even if it sucks people are gonna be modding the old games until the end of time at least

[Cardan]

引用自 Von Faustien：

引用自 Cardan：

yeah making an already existing title that wasn't exclusive before an exclusive now isn't the greatest idea... which reminds me, and I know its off topic but, microsoft has no relationship with gsc game world... yet they are getting stalker 2 3 months before everyone else, whats up with that?

microsoft didnt orginally have a relathonship with beth but Xbox still got 3s dlcs months before ps3.

consoles sell on exclusives so they offten bribe third parties for either full or timed exclusivity
on either full games or dlc

timed exclusives are dumb imo because it defeats the whole point of exclusives... selling systems

[Ellorien]

NV2? I hope not.
Not because I disliked the first one but mostly because Obsidian is a different company today — incapable of writing coherent stories or creating interesting gameplay. The devs are totally into identity politics and communist propaganda nowadays, if TOW is any indication. Do you really want this crap in your next fallout game? I don’t.