Covenant quest line bugged

[LiMiT™]

So my covenant quest line is bugged.
If I go into any of the houses where you can be caught trespassing and stealing, no matter if I sneak, use a stealthboy or disable AI detection through console, as soon as I step out I am immediately hostile.

All I would need really is to get to know the location of the compound from the terminal.
I'm looking for a console command that would hopefully give me the item or something that would give me the location of the place, pretty much if I would use the computer to read through the things in there.
Anyone got a console command for this?

I'm not looking for the setstage command

[steventirey]

Well, if all you want is the location:

Just head across the lake, into the middle one of the 3 pipe there. Thats where the compound is.

Its been a while, but I think you also get the location from fixing the radio in one of the houses, and also from the trash can in the store.

[The Inept European]

It's not bugged. It's definitely possible to steal. You need to crouch even if nobody has line of sight on you.

To progress the quest the standard way is


Talk to Dan
Get the password from near Orden's bed in the private bunk house
Access the terminal in the office
Optionally talk to Dan again
Talk to Orden
Talk to / kill Manny
Optionally kill many guards
Talk to/ kill Chambers

[The Inept European]

A lesser known fact is that you can complete the entire quest with either outcome (good + reward + hostile settlement/ evil + alliied settlement) just by heading straight to the Compound without ever talking to Dan, finding any clues, or even visiting Covenant.

[LiMiT™]

Originally posted by The Ex-ept European:

It's not bugged. It's definitely possible to steal. You need to crouch even if nobody has line of sight on you.

Mate, it's bugged. I'm not a newbie, it is bugged :) Trust me on this.
Tho I didn't know that I can just get to the compound. I was under the impression that to be able to progress -or even access parts if not all of the compound- I NEED to know the location from either one of the sources mentioned above.

It's probably not the quest that's bugged actually, it's covenant, or the NPCs/AI there for some reason. I tested it, no matter what I do, if I come out of a building where I trespass I'll immediately turn hostile whether they saw me or not.
It's probably due to a mod I have installed as when I got there, two factions were fighting eachother and most of the doors were open -main one included-, NPCs at different locations all around covenant and so on.


No matter, I'll just walk to the compound then. Thanks :)

[The Inept European]

I have stolen stuff in Covenant more times than I can remember. There are areas of the game where you have to crouch to steal even if you think you're unobservable. Covenant is one, Bunker Hill is another. Even Goodneighbor. You also need to remain stealthy while leaving the (trespassed) house.

It's not bugged, you're just not doing it right.

[LiMiT™]

Originally posted by The Ex-ept European:

It's not bugged, you're just not doing it right.

It is bugged. Period. I don't know what you're trying to prove to me. Nobody is questioning your absolute knowledge of the game.

I am doing everything right, it's bugged due to a mod. Now say, "ok, I see, sorry" and move on.

[SuperSledgeNY]

Are we done here? Please say yes.

[QwanGetMad]

It's pretty obviously bugged based on the many posts I've seen about this kind of issue. There's loads of issues with the general hostility of this settlement regardless of whether you steal stuff or are allied later.
The whole thing seems kinda janky to me.

I've spent the last hour trying different things with this segment and I'm certain it's bugged.
I absolutely am not seen breaking into the house or taking an item. But as soon as I have taken an item, in a closed, empty building, they start screaming 'You've ruined everything' and shooting at my companion outside lol.

Edit to add; it kinda amused me that someone assumes you'd have not tried crouching.
I just figured that's the default for sneaking... >.>;

[The Inept European]

While there are many known bugs with this quest and this settlement, there's something unusual about the issues in this thread because they're not the common experience and not reproducible. Hence the reasonable inference that the OP is doing something unusual or different. Because it is absolutely possible, easy even, to steal items in Covenant. It's pretty much essential that you steal passwords and keys and notes in Covenant otherwise the quest can't be completed. I have done hundreds of runs of Covenant in order to characterise the bugs that do exist, and I've never seen the issue that the OP is reporting.

[steventirey]

Originally posted by The Ex-ept European:

. It's pretty much essential that you steal passwords and keys and notes in Covenant otherwise the quest can't be completed.

You don't need to steal a thing to complete the quest. Really, you don't even need to step foot inside Covenant to do the quest. As for not being able to steal items, its not that rare of a bug. Its even specifically mentioned on the wiki page:

It might not be possible to sneakily do anything in Covenant or even far away from it with their property because they will notice right away wherever you are and wherever they are, making it impossible to use unowned terminal or take password\keys from the table making the only way to progress the quest - by stealing map to Compound from settlers inventory.

[sigmapsidelta]

I found that I couldn't seem to get away with anything there, even unlocking a door when crouched and unobserved turned the place hostile. So I just left and ignored it.

Several game weeks later I stumbled across their underground lab without knowing what it was. I was just faced with a group of armed men who decided I had to die. As they did it out loud I took the hint and blew them away. I'd killed every one of them before I found out what the place was. I hadn't done any of the railroad stuff at that point and was sure it would affect that. But when I did meet them none of them had anything to say about it.
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[The Inept European]

Personally I believe Covenant was an early beta for the settlement and quest system or just done by a dev who wasn't really looped in with the other devs, because it's a mess under the hood.

[The Inept European]

Originally posted by steventirey:

Originally posted by The Ex-ept European:

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As for not being able to steal items, its not that rare of a bug. Its even specifically mentioned on the wiki page:

It might not be possible to sneakily do anything in Covenant or even far away from it with their property because they will notice right away wherever you are and wherever they are, making it impossible to use unowned terminal or take password\keys from the table making the only way to progress the quest - by stealing map to Compound from settlers inventory.

This is consistent with people not understanding that red in VATS doesn't mean hostile. People who expect hostility will 'see' enemies in Covenant that aren't actually hostile. Maybe it's some kind of metaphor. But probably just a bug. The root cause is the red display colour and VATS and people misinterpreting that as a hostile response to what they just did, I'm sure of that. People not realising that Covenant residents go red all the time for no reason.

Walk into Covenant and spend a day there doing nothing except watching them in VATS. You will see that they just randomly shift between red and green for stretches of time for no reason, when you are literally doing nothing. It's not linked to stealing or trespassing. While they do have behaviour against stealing or trespassing, it's easy to beat it and works the same way it works in the rest of the game: be hidden even if you think you're not observable, wait before moving off, don't be seen leaving a building where you trespassed.

[The Inept European]

Originally posted by steventirey:

Originally posted by The Ex-ept European:

. It's pretty much essential that you steal passwords and keys and notes in Covenant otherwise the quest can't be completed.

You don't need to steal a thing to complete the quest. Really, you don't even need to step foot inside Covenant to do the quest.

Yes I know - I think I mentioned this upthread (maybe it was the other active thread). However that method of completing the quest - particularly on the pro-Compound side - is not well documented, counter intuitive, and hard to pull off. Certainly as designed the intention is you need to access the terminal which means stealing the password if you don't have the perks, and trespassing in the office even if you do have the perks.