[Help Needed][Modding]Black Shoulder Bug with an Outfit Mod

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Mods which are relevant for my problem:

- CBBE (Curvy Variant)
- Gunner Outfit Pack (STANDALONE) [https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/43686]
- Glorious Female Nude Mod (For better textures)

Every outfir from the Gunner Outfit Pack features a prominent black spot on the left shoulder of my female characters - as shown here:

I know that this is because of a conflict between the CBBE and the outfits.

I tried re-installing the CBBE body - no positive results.
I tried the CBBE (Vanilla Variant) - no positive results.
I tried several other skin mods for the CBBE body - no positive results.

I deleted the CBBE body and the black spot was gone. But the CBBE body was gone, too. And I need it for all my other mods which depend on that specific body mod.

I know I could delete the Gunner Outfit Pack and call it a day or even install another pack - but you know how it is: once you've found the perfect mod you just don't want to part ways with it, because this mod is all you wanted and it looks cool and adds so many cool new things. Besides, it's one of the biggest Gunner Faction Mods and even has another mod which integrates all the uniforms and armors to the leveled list.

So I really don't want to delete it.

I read that it could be easily fixed with Bodyslide/Outfit Studio - but the guy who made the mod didn't include any mesh files (???) to his mod and I can't see them in the Body Slide tool.

So ... help?

[neddy3135]

I know about as much about you do about 'cause I'm fairly new to this myself . ever thought of hiding that ''hole'' with the upper arm combat armour piece set light or medium ? that night ''fix'' the problem .

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As presumptuous as this may sound, if this method was an option for me, I would not have opened this thread.

I would like to solve a problem, not cover it up.

[Flippy]

Need to get the new versions of the clothes to.

I would reinstall everything and over write, but also installing the clothes that go with it. Look for what the mod needs.

Really to bad it isnt more simple, but at least customization is possible.

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It is the latest version of the clothing mod. It was re-installed several times.

I know what the bug causes. I need somebody who knows how to edits those clothings in Bodyslide.

And yes: if it was that easy and done with a tutorial I would have done it already.

[n0t0ryczny]

You will not fix this by reinstalling either CBBE or your outfit mods, nor by experimenting with bodyslide.

The reason why the problem is appearing is that outfit mod was created for body other than CBBE. Maybe its for vanilla, maybe its for atomic, maybe its for 7base (I do not know how many bodies exist nowadays, I'm not up to date). If the outfit mod was created for a different CBBE subtype, it'd still work but textures would look stretched. Different body meshes use differently arranged body textures, and if you mismatch them (as it is with partial outfit trying to wrap itself on a "wrong" mesh) you get black spots or stuff like toenails visible on forearm. Face will not be misplaced because head is a different mesh (for several reasons).

Just checked, the gunner outfits pack was created for vanilla body and the author clearly stated he's not going to make any conversions (for other bodies).

So here you are.

[Flippy]

Originally posted by 𝕴𝖗𝖚𝖑𝖆𝖓:

It is the latest version of the clothing mod. It was re-installed several times.

I know what the bug causes. I need somebody who knows how to edits those clothings in Bodyslide.

And yes: if it was that easy and done with a tutorial I would have done it already.

Thats a mesh that messing up the texture, or the texture is wrong. Your missing something is all. It may not be the clothing mod your using but the clothing mods thats the clothing mod your using is using. :)

Anyway your missing a mod somewhere. :) Or a mod isnt loading possibly.

[SuperSledgeNY]

Originally posted by n0t0ryczny:

You will not fix this by reinstalling either CBBE or your outfit mods, nor by experimenting with bodyslide.

The reason why the problem is appearing is that outfit mod was created for body other than CBBE. Maybe its for vanilla, maybe its for atomic, maybe its for 7base (I do not know how many bodies exist nowadays, I'm not up to date). If the outfit mod was created for a different CBBE subtype, it'd still work but textures would look stretched. Different body meshes use differently arranged body textures, and if you mismatch them (as it is with partial outfit trying to wrap itself on a "wrong" mesh) you get black spots or stuff like toenails visible on forearm. Face will not be misplaced because head is a different mesh (for several reasons).

Just checked, the gunner outfits pack was created for vanilla body and the author clearly stated he's not going to make any conversions (for other bodies).

So here you are.

^^^ This is the CORRECT answer - That gunner clothing mod is NOT CBBE compatible, and thats why you're getting that black patch on the shoulder.

If you want, I can explain why it's happening but for now, its enough to say that the mod is not made for CBBE, ant that's why you see what you're seeing in game.

[Flippy]

I know exactly what that is, the mods use a different mesh and texture than the base game. Thats always bothered me, but thats the way it is for all the mods.

So somewhere the mesh is wrong or the texture is wrong and got to install all the needed mods properly and that may not be easy.

I install mods manually because its very easy with a little effort and way better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZpIQ6P38xE

[Bergele]

Here's something I tried and it worked:
- Download B.A.E. - Bethesda Archive Extractor ( https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/78 )
- Extract files from DT_GunnerOutfitPack - Main.ba2 (E: it's in Data folder)
- Move the files into Data folder
(- delete the .ba2 file from Data folder. Idk if it's necessary tbh)
- Open Vortex and click Deploy Mods. It should inform about external changes now, select 'Save change (delete file)' and click Confirm.
- Open the armor you want to edit in Outfit Studio (meshes should be in Data\meshes\DT_Mods\DT_GunnerArmorOverhaul)
- Remove BaseFemaleBody:0
- File -> Load Reference -> select reference body of your choice
(- probably have to use Decrease Mesh tool to fix few areas)
- Slider -> Conform all
- File -> Save Project As...
- Copy Output File Name to Display Name, click 'to project' and click Save.

Now you should be able to apply Bodyslide preset of your choice in Bodyslide to the armor unless I'm worse at explaining things/ giving instructions that I thought.