Cryolator

[Grendalcat]

So I have never bothered with the Cryolator, as it looks rather weak, at least judging by its stats.
Finally bothered to pick it up, put the three mods on it, and tried it out. I was rather surprised at its effectiveness. It easily disposes of raiders and Supermutants in the area around Diamond City, and is accurate out to a fairly long range(not the longest). Am planning on going deathclaw hunting with it next.

If you have experience with it, do you think the Cryolator is worth bee lining to Cait, to get her to open the locked case, when you are well below level 18? Have you found it to be effective against most targets, or fail vs anything in particular?

[Grendalcat]

Originally posted by The Inept European:

Well I can't even get the dog to follow back into the Vault. If I say Stay he stays above ground and if I say follow he falls down the lift shaft and dies.

Well that's sad.

As for the Cryolator, I took it to the Boston Mayoral Shelter and tried it out on the Deathclaw.
It did kill it, but took about eight hits and didn't register a freeze either.

Not overly impressive, gauss rifle would have dropped it in a couple of shots.

[=EGC= kansasterry]

How well it works drops as with most things after a certain level the hostile npc's tend be bullet sponges. As for ammo if I recall correctly I think there are several mods already that add the ability to craft its ammo.

Such as

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/798

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/40650

Probably lots more these are just the first couple from the search results for ammo.

[ZZZZZ]

the only sad thing is the ammo, I mean traders sell it yes but alwas only like 100 which is close to none

[ghpstage]

Originally posted by Grendalcat:

As for the Cryolator, I took it to the Boston Mayoral Shelter and tried it out on the Deathclaw.
It did kill it, but took about eight hits and didn't register a freeze either.

Not overly impressive, gauss rifle would have dropped it in a couple of shots.

Not all enemies can be frozen, that I know of deathclaws deathclaws, some robots (assaultron), mirelurk queens and behemoths are all immune to the Freeing legendary effect. I expect that there are more and I suspect that these would also be immune to the cryolator freeze effect.

If looking for performance you would be better off with a more standard weapon.

[kharille]

950 hours and I've barely used it. I think I recall shooting off a few rounds outside the junk trader in diamond city. Main issue, no nuclear material. If there were more of this gun I might be willing to take it out. Don't know but it seems I'm getting pickpocketed all the time. Found my flare gun with Dogmeat recently, glad I didn't lose that.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

The ammo is a pain in the ass but it's surpringly strong with ranged weapon mod improvements and the right skills. It can basically become a non collateral fat man if you build upon it. Best part is few enemies are immune to cryo damage meaning you can easily freeze things like mirlurks and robots.

If you want ammo you gotta splurge a bit on vendors. Idk if settlement vendors sell but some wandering traders like trashcan carla can sell some cryo cells.

[The Inept European]

It's ridiculous that any cryo cells exist anywhere outside Vault 111 since it's supposed to be a unique experimental weapon that didn't even exist until after the bombs fell. It's the only weapon that takes cryo cells.

So the ammo is stupid, it should have just run on standard fusion cells. Using power to make things cold, like a refrigerator, or anything else that makes things cold. Cryo cells should not exist or be a thing. A secret unique weapon is fine, but populating the world with ammo that is only usable in that unique weapon is ridiculous.

Badly thought through.

At least cannonballs and bowling balls and railway spikes (and junk) can be found in the world and have other uses, other reasons to exist.

[Grendalcat]

Originally posted by The Inept European:

It's ridiculous that any cryo cells exist anywhere outside Vault 111 since it's supposed to be a unique experimental weapon that didn't even exist until after the bombs fell. It's the only weapon that takes cryo cells.

So the ammo is stupid, it should have just run on standard fusion cells. Using power to make things cold, like a refrigerator, or anything else that makes things cold. Cryo cells should not exist or be a thing. A secret unique weapon is fine, but populating the world with ammo that is only usable in that unique weapon is ridiculous.

Badly thought through.

At least cannonballs and bowling balls and railway spikes (and junk) can be found in the world and have other uses, other reasons to exist.

Yes the ammo situation does seem to be the biggest drawback, if it used fusion cells, you could really spam fire it, as they are quite common. Also cryo cells are quite expensive.

[ZZZZZ]

Originally posted by The Inept European:

It's ridiculous that any cryo cells exist anywhere outside Vault 111 since it's supposed to be a unique experimental weapon that didn't even exist until after the bombs fell. It's the only weapon that takes cryo cells.

So the ammo is stupid, it should have just run on standard fusion cells. Using power to make things cold, like a refrigerator, or anything else that makes things cold. Cryo cells should not exist or be a thing. A secret unique weapon is fine, but populating the world with ammo that is only usable in that unique weapon is ridiculous.

Badly thought through.

At least cannonballs and bowling balls and railway spikes (and junk) can be found in the world and have other uses, other reasons to exist.

as we know people emerged from and made it into vault 111.. therefore its possible that these guys got the ammo from vault 111 too.. I mean the guy wouldnt have made a weapon without ammo

[The Inept European]

Yeah the guy made the weapon and the guy made the ammo. Even if he had more ammo and even if some people made it out of Vault 111 with that ammo - which would be totally pointless unless there was another Cryolator - it would still be incredibly rare.

They should have made the gun use fusion cells or require no ammo at all, or use a fusion core. Or make the ammo craftable from idk, antifreeze and fusion cells or something. Or from liquid nitrogen dispensers.

Just stupid.

[ghpstage]

Originally posted by Grendalcat:

Yes the ammo situation does seem to be the biggest drawback, if it used fusion cells, you could really spam fire it, as they are quite common. Also cryo cells are quite expensive.

Cryo cells have the same value the same as 2mm EC, you don't find much and hardly any vendors stock any let alone much, I can only think of Cricket.
If you want to use it a lot while not having related mods then getting the ammo is a bigger problem than the weapons performance.

[Grendalcat]

Originally posted by ghpstage:

Originally posted by Grendalcat:

Yes the ammo situation does seem to be the biggest drawback, if it used fusion cells, you could really spam fire it, as they are quite common. Also cryo cells are quite expensive.

Cryo cells have the same value the same as 2mm EC, you don't find much and hardly any vendors stock any let alone much, I can only think of Cricket.
If you want to use it a lot while not having related mods then getting the ammo is a bigger problem than the weapons performance.

These vendors stock it:

Vendor Name

Arturo Rodriguez Diamond City market
Myrna Diamond City market
Percy Diamond City market
Daisy Goodneighbor
KL-E-0 Goodneighbor
Rufus Rubins Goodneighbor
Proctor Teagan The Prydwen
Tinker Tom Railroad HQ
Cricket Boston
(Traveling merchant)
Ronnie Shaw The Castle
(after completing Old Guns)

However you are correct that it is also expensive.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

Originally posted by The Inept European:

It's ridiculous that any cryo cells exist anywhere outside Vault 111 since it's supposed to be a unique experimental weapon that didn't even exist until after the bombs fell. It's the only weapon that takes cryo cells.

So the ammo is stupid, it should have just run on standard fusion cells. Using power to make things cold, like a refrigerator, or anything else that makes things cold. Cryo cells should not exist or be a thing. A secret unique weapon is fine, but populating the world with ammo that is only usable in that unique weapon is ridiculous.

Badly thought through.

At least cannonballs and bowling balls and railway spikes (and junk) can be found in the world and have other uses, other reasons to exist.

cyro grenades and cyro mines exist as well as cyro weapons meaning cryo tech already existed before. The cyrocells were / are probably used to make the cyro explosives so seeing as a way to make them portable to use in a weapon would be the only unique thing that vault 111 had.

That and there was a coup'e from the vault staff so if you look carefully theres not many items in the vault and stuffs mostly empty which means some probably bailed or got scavenged beforehand which is not too much a of a stretch since the institute was able to find and get into the vault. By then it was sabotaged though / no non-frozen person was left alive or present in the vault so it was abandoned.

[The Inept European]

Ok so possibly, at a stretch, before you woke up from the vault there might have been one, or let's really push the boat and say 2-3 examples of this prototype weapon at large in the Commonwealth. A huge stretch but grant that. Multiple vendors are going to stock and restock this unique ammo just for these 2-3 guns, assuming they're still in use and not lost or destroyed or broken.

Or they're stocking cryo cells for all the people out there in the Commonwealth who are busily crafting cryo mines and cryo grenades? Which do not actually require cryo cells to craft (perhaps they should).

[=EGC= kansasterry]

Originally posted by The Inept European:

It's ridiculous that any cryo cells exist anywhere outside Vault 111 since it's supposed to be a unique experimental weapon that didn't even exist until after the bombs fell. It's the only weapon that takes cryo cells.

So the ammo is stupid, it should have just run on standard fusion cells. Using power to make things cold, like a refrigerator, or anything else that makes things cold. Cryo cells should not exist or be a thing. A secret unique weapon is fine, but populating the world with ammo that is only usable in that unique weapon is ridiculous.

Badly thought through.

At least cannonballs and bowling balls and railway spikes (and junk) can be found in the world and have other uses, other reasons to exist.

True it does not make sense that something created in vault 111 after the bombs fell would suddenly have the ammo available from vendors.

As far as we are aware the vault was only accessed when we went in the day the bombs fell, when the ones took the kid, and when we go back for the cryolator that is still locked in its case.

They should have had a recipe for the ammo for us to find or something indicating someone else got into vault 111 took the recipe and sold it along with some other use for it to explain the vendors selling the ammo. As you stated there would be little sense in a vendor carrying something that only one customer would ever buy or use.

I could see the ingredients needed for cryo mines/grenades being used to make the ammo however I do not see the ammo in the recipe as a requirement to make them.