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The Nameless Nov 19, 2020 @ 6:12pm
So... how long is Sole gonna live?
1. The Ghoulish perk implies, to me, that Sole might already have an extended lifespan, even though the lesser exposure, specialness of Sole, or cryo-stasis weirdness had caused him/her to keep the nice normal skin.

2. Cabot House plot. Even if you kill Lorenzo, you'll wind up with enough Mysterious Serum to copy Jack's dilution system and extend Sole's life for a long, long time... and who the hell is gonna kill their key to everlasting life anyway? If you're gonna make a deal with the Devil, you can pick worse devils than that guy.

3. Nuka World. Bradberton's science guys ran out of time, but Sole has time in plenty, especially if 1 or 2 are a thing. Surely, with all the connections Sole has, he/she can get somebody to refine it into a periodic treatment or shrink it down to fit inside of a set of power armor, or implants, so that eternal life can happen with no head-chopping.

Any notion if, maybe, Sole is gonna be part of the Fallout universe for a long, long, long time? Assuming the Fallout universe doesn't end now that Microsoft is calling the shots.
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Von Faustien Nov 19, 2020 @ 7:53pm 
if you wanted imortality kellogs implants is a more viable option. shaun may have shut down the project but im sure you could restart it
pandreon Nov 19, 2020 @ 7:55pm 
The games have been pretty stand-alone so far. I see no reason why this would ever change. Big studios want their big games to be accessible to total newcomers... most of the people who play Fallout 5 will probably have never heard of Fallout before, or only played 4 or 76, and have little interest in lore from older games that won't even run on future OSes or consoles.

That said, I think SS' lifespan depends entirely on whether the Cabot serum cures/prevents cancer. Soooo many rads taken. Even if you side with the Institute, keep in mind the ending there.
The Nameless Nov 19, 2020 @ 8:01pm 
Originally posted by pandreon:
The games have been pretty stand-alone so far. I see no reason why this would ever change. Big studios want their big games to be accessible to total newcomers... most of the people who play Fallout 5 will probably have never heard of Fallout before, or only played 4 or 76, and have little interest in lore from older games that won't even run on future OSes or consoles.

That said, I think SS' lifespan depends entirely on whether the Cabot serum cures/prevents cancer. Soooo many rads taken. Even if you side with the Institute, keep in mind the ending there.

Well I'd have to say it does, since Jack and family have lived for 400 years without cancer. That includes 200 years taking the same rads as everybody else on the surface.

Ghoulification prevents cancer too, apparently, or at least turns you into a walking cancer that doesn't die. This is why I mention the 'Ghoulish' perk.

Originally posted by Von Faustien:
if you wanted imortality kellogs implants is a more viable option. shaun may have shut down the project but im sure you could restart it

Yeah, that extended Kellog's life pretty well, didn't it? If I was going to use the Institute, though, I'd move more towards making Synth bodies more fully human--including fertility--and using them as replacements when human bodies get old instead of as meat-robot servants.

Synths, if you read the lore about them, are ageless; synths that seem "old" were designed to look that way to fit the roles the Institute had in mind for them. So, if I want to use the Institute to achieve immortality, I'll simply have my consciousness transferred into a synth duplicate of myself.
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Humane Nov 20, 2020 @ 5:40am 
The Mysterious Serum alone guarantees at least a half millennium lifespan, perhaps more.
With access to the Institute as director, you could simply have an entire division research it to perhaps refine it even more, who knows.
WC4L420 Nov 20, 2020 @ 5:55am 
I bet he'd get bored and just want to relax after so much murder and looting.
kharille Nov 20, 2020 @ 8:38am 
I helped Lorenzo on my 2nd playthrough. Don't understand why the companions don't seem to support my decision. Never use those gamma guns anyway. Lorenzo spent too long in a small space, probably became mad from boredom.
Does Lorenzo fit into any of the other Fallout lore?

Also is there any connection between Lorenzo and that Quarry where you see the visions and get the melee weapon something's Tooth
=EGC= kansasterry Nov 20, 2020 @ 9:13am 
Originally posted by kharille:
I helped Lorenzo on my 2nd playthrough. Don't understand why the companions don't seem to support my decision. Never use those gamma guns anyway. Lorenzo spent too long in a small space, probably became mad from boredom.

Actually if you did deep enough into it he was locked up for committing several horrific murders because the alien artifact made him "insane" by the standard of society of the time it happened.

in fact there is a random encounter if we release him where he is standing over the body of one of his newer victims
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Heimdall313 Nov 20, 2020 @ 9:22am 
They shall live until I clean out my save folder again.
kharille Nov 20, 2020 @ 10:06am 
Originally posted by =EGC= kansasterry:

Actually if you did deep enough into it he was locked up for committing several horrific murders because the alien artifact made him "insane" by the standard of society of the time it happened.

in fact there is a random encounter if we release him where he is standing over the body of one of his newer victims

Didn't know that. Maybe I'll check out oxhorn on this someday. But still, if there was a karma system I'd just dump a whole lot of purified water on some whiner. Expect to get 5000 water units when I get around to spectacle island.
Von Faustien Nov 20, 2020 @ 1:34pm 
Originally posted by Mr. Snow ☯:
Does Lorenzo fit into any of the other Fallout lore?

Also is there any connection between Lorenzo and that Quarry where you see the visions and get the melee weapon something's Tooth

He like the quarry is a refrence to the Lovecraft mythos as for a direct conection well we dont have any hard info but im going with most likely

as for fitting lore psionic powers have a thing since fallout 1and been in everygame. putting aside the random encounters fallout 2 have a legit ghost you can lay to rest by returning a locket so its not like supernautral ♥♥♥♥ wasnt in game even if it wasnt common
Bored Peon Nov 20, 2020 @ 1:37pm 
Well if you are one of them looneys that believe the soul survivor is a synth....synths do not age.
Von Faustien Nov 20, 2020 @ 1:42pm 
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
Well if you are one of them looneys that believe the soul survivor is a synth....synths do not age.
Its crazy people still buy the synth theory.

the true nature of the sole survivor is that shes a data construct compsed of code made by some extradimenional entirty to interact with the fall world with. you see fallouts not real its just a matrix like artifical reality made to entertain board eldritch horrors this is why aspects of the world change in wierd ways and the history seems oddly contradictory the whole thing including the sole survivor is just data and the entire world exists on the whim of a board god.
Bored Peon Nov 20, 2020 @ 1:49pm 
Originally posted by Von Faustien:
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
Well if you are one of them looneys that believe the soul survivor is a synth....synths do not age.
Its crazy people still buy the synth theory.
Well people still try insisting the SS was replaced by a synth while in the vault.

It should be fairly obvious that is not the case since if you side against the Institute they never use your recall code to shut you down. Yet there will always be someone who attempt to argue it anyways.
Originally posted by Von Faustien:
if you wanted imortality kellogs implants is a more viable option. shaun may have shut down the project but im sure you could restart it
Was about to say this.

You can also side with the institute and if you do you can probably continue research and greatly expand your life or make a duplicate synth version of yourself to take your place. At least that's what i see since your son made a copy of himself.

The real question is

Why would you wanna live that long?

Progress is pretty much lost and you'd just be surviving. Both your spouse and son (he dies either way whether by your hands or by cancer / disease is another question) and friends / neighbors and all your old world is pretty much gone. You're just a cog in a machine now that people are too dumb or spineless enough to do themselves an will depend on you alot. Exception being the BoS who already have a leader but in a cut content you could've overthrown him and had Danse or yourself become the Elder.

You'll literally be a fetch quest mailmain like in New Vegas or a hired mercenary sent to "take out the trash". You can only build your settlements so much as well in the story before it's both autonomous for defense and trading and connected to other settlements.

Then there's still the Chinese halfway across the world to worry about (chinese soldiers turned into ghouls and survived in 4 and in 3 so it's likely they'll still have outliers somewhere waiting and rebuilding possibly).


The only real person that can help is Mr. House if you decided to help him in New Vegas or not. Even then it'll be planets populated by robots instead of people. You're screwed either way.
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