Could someone explain Trader Store and Trader Stand

[Jaunitta 🌸]

Are they boh needed and what's the purpose of the Stands?
I thought the fridge looking one that says general is for storage?
Wiki states something but I dont unerstand it
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Trading_stand
Thanks.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2217215432

[CammoSoldier]

Well you place them down and assign a settler to it, you can then trade with them. (They will have the inventory of whatever stand you put down) They also produce caps and happiness. Oh and you don't need both of them.
One of them is just better than the other.
Is that what you wanted to know?

[AlexMBrennan]

I thought the fridge looking one that says general is for storage?

"The fridge looking one" is a trader that fits inside normal sized buildings (i.e. you don't need to buy the barn DLC, or go mad trying to build stairs for a double height ceiling).

In general, the Fallout designers really love objects that are just a bit too tall to fit into normal rooms...

[The Inept European]

The Wiki article is not great.

For each type of store there are three tiers, each with two models. The models make no practical difference. The higher tiers cost more to build but have more caps for you to obtain by selling to them.

Adding multiple stores of the same type has no effect (iirc) as the items for sale and the caps supply are pooled across all stores of that type. (In fact I think they are pooled across all stores of that type, across all your settlements?)

[WillieSea]

It is not 'store' as in 'storage'. It is 'store' as in place to buy and sell stuff.
Some can also improve settlement moral if manned by a settler.

[The Inept European]

Yes to break it down:

You build a store
You assign a Settler to the store in the Build menu (Assign)
You can then buy items of that type (general, weapons, armour, clothing, chems/medical, food/drink) from the store.
You can sell anything to the store, up to its limit of caps.

Items and caps refresh periodically - every 3 game days iirc.

Low tier stores are called "store", the high tier ones are called "emporium".

There are special NPCs that will increase a tier 3 store to a tier 4 store if they are assigned to it.

"Trader" means a general store that will have mixed inventory similar to Carla, Trudy or Daisy.

[Jaunitta 🌸]

So I dont really need the trading stand ie the general ( looks like a fridge)
I dont get it lol
so basically for my layman simple female mind, the fridge looking one is for indoors ?
and the shop is the one to use for outdoors not both together.
Appreciate the responses , its difficult to ask when I'm not sure of the subject .
Well I removed all the stands ( fridge looking ) and presto all the peeps arrived lol.
I just thought what the hell is everyone doing here.
Pub hehe
So I placed some tables and chairs it was the pub I guess.
At night as well so had to add lights too. Its getting fun now for sure.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2217251912

Do I need to add clothes to the clothes store or do they grab stuff they need from workshop?

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Jaunitta 🌸:

so basically for my layman simple female mind, the fridge looking one is for indoors ?
and the shop is the one to use for outdoors not both together.

The glass-fronted "fridge" versions are better for using indoors simply because they're not as tall.

They do all the same things as the wooden version, they just provide you with a different appearance to use (and the glass-fronted ones can snap together to make a single long counter, if that's what you want).

Originally posted by Jaunitta 🌸:

Do I need to add clothes to the clothes store or do they grab stuff they need from workshop?

Once you build the shop, you don't need to supply any further goods or materials.

The game doesn't show it happening, but it's assumed they trade for goods or raw materials as part of their business.

[spared_life]

TIE is correct if you have 5 settlements and one weapon store in each of the 5 they share the same amount caps and product. So if you aquire all the caps from the Sanctuary weapon store and then walk to Red Rocket that weapons store will now have no caps.

You can actually sell all your unneeded stuff to a vendor beyond their cap limit. The game will warn you the vendor does not have enough caps and then you can approve. Just in case you want to keep clutter down.

Advanced:

Stores are good to have in a settlement even if you don't plan to build it up. I usually put weapons, medic, and general stores. At the very least one settler can be assigned to which one you need at the time. In other *edit: words assign a settler to weapons, buy what you need, reassign the same settler to medic, get what you need, ....then assign to food production while you need nothing.

There are two types of settlements. Those where the happiness drops so low you lose alignment with them and those you can never lose alignment with no matter how low the happiness goes. If you load a settlement up with stores and assign vendors to them those stores will be available to trade with even if you are no longer aligned with them.

If you have the cheap store like say the weapons store and a raid breaks the store causing it to need repairs you can still trade with the vendor without repairing the store. The vendor will be out walking or standing around somewhere. The cheap stores break so much I rarely repair them.

If a settlement has reached max population of settlers but you still need another for that emporium you just built. Go to another settlement and assign a settler to supply line where the destination is the emporium settlement. When the provisioner reaches the destination settlement reassign the provisioner to the emporium.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by spared_life:

If you have the cheap store like say the weapons store and a raid breaks the store causing it to need repairs you can still trade with the vendor without repairing the store. The vendor will be out walking or standing around somewhere. The cheap stores break so much I rarely repair them.

A funny quirk there is that the glass counter versions of shops seem to be invulnerable to damage, unlike the original wooden versions.

[The Inept European]

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

A funny quirk there is that the glass counter versions of shops seem to be invulnerable to damage, unlike the original wooden versions.

It's made from glass that was fused at the centre of a nuclear blast. :D

[Jaunitta 🌸]

I have 12 supply lines I then discover the stores cause I get lvl 2 leader perk.
I cant send anymore toSanctuary so am sending a few to other settlements as they ere idle and I have no more slots for work food is great.
I'm at level 27 late bloomer had no idea of this part too busy doing quests and just having fun.
Now I'm spending time on building stores learning how to fix houses .
I dont want to use any mods as I'm not comfortable with them Nexas is great but the mods for the game inbuilt require my email. Nah not prpared to give it.

The help here has been enormous thankyou all very much.
So many YTB and sites have guides dated 2015 so i went into this game wearing black glasses like a blind peron I had no idea :)
My plan now after the advise and knoweledge I have gained here is to just follow the supply line to each settlement and check them since many need more beds and now add the stores.
I'm loving this game.
All my settlements happiness is between 65 and 83.
Wow so much to learn and do brilliant
Edit
I dont have a Medic perk or anyone to assign to yet.

[bigdale]

In your settlements you can build exercise equipment as well to slightly increase happiness, the weight bench and pommel horse can also be used by the player for a small stat boost.

[Jaunitta 🌸]

Originally posted by bigdale:

In your settlements you can build exercise equipment as well to slightly increase happiness, the weight bench and pommel horse can also be used by the player for a small stat boost.

Is this a mod?
As I dont believe I have seen anything like them yet in the vanilla? :)
Great idea though thanks.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Jaunitta 🌸:

Originally posted by bigdale:

In your settlements you can build exercise equipment as well to slightly increase happiness, the weight bench and pommel horse can also be used by the player for a small stat boost.

Is this a mod?
As I dont believe I have seen anything like them yet in the vanilla? :)
Great idea though thanks.

It's part of the Vault-Tec Workshop DLC. It's a 1-point bonus which can be applied to any of the SPECIAL statistics depending on what item you use, and lasts until you change it by using one of the other items.

There's the weight bench (+1 STR),power cycle 1000 (+1 END), barber chair (+1 CHR), Vault 88 overseer's desk (+1 INT), pommel horse (+1 AGI), and slot machine (+1 LCK). Most of them can be built anywhere, but the overseer's desk can only be built inside Vault 88.

[bigdale]

Ah thanks, I didn't realize that was DLC. I knew the slot machines were, never made the connection.