Best rifle in the game

[Ez Duzit]

The splattercannon is pretty brutal. Only available from the weapon merchant in the Nuka World market for something like 6000 caps but well worth it. Holds 75 rounds per clip and has a blazing fast fire rate and almost no recoil, so rit's really easy to keep it on target. Plus it has increased damage after each consecutive hit on the same target. Only down side is that the ammo is only available from the Nuka world merchants, but you can usually get at least 1000 rounds each time you go there, so after just a few visits you can have several thousand rounds in reserve. Although the cost for 1000's of rounds of ammo can get expensive you can just trade it for other ammo you don't use. I was kind of reluctant to spend so much for a gun, so I quick saved before buying i, just in case. Now it's my main weapon and plows through any enemy or creature out there.

[bunny de fluff]

that is if you haven't got the wounding combat shotgun yet

[Warm Fuzzies™]

No....no.

Instigating Gauss Rifle still beats it. The Furious affix only stacks 10 times.

A Laser Musket with the Neverending Affix also beats it, and here is why;

The Neverending mod can make certain weapons unstable. For example, a laser musket with the effect will consume all ammunition for the gun that is currently in the player inventory. However, as the musket uses its "energy reservoir" to store the crank charge, and this mod sets the reservoir size to the amount of ammo in your inventory, the mod effectively removes the crank limit. Since the damage of the weapon is based on how many cranks you can give it, this gives that single shot a devastating amount of damage. For example, at 200 cranks, a single shot can do about 30,000 damage.

And a Two Shot MIRV Fat Man trumps all.

[Pain Weasel]

Originally posted by Warm Fuzzies:

No....no.

Instigating Gauss Rifle still beats it. The Furious affix only stacks 10 times.

A Laser Musket with the Neverending Affix also beats it, and here is why;

And a Two Shot MIRV Fat Man trumps all.

I was assuming he was restricting it to automatic rifles which is really the only way a Furious legendary is any good. In that case it certainly is one of the best as the Handmade Automatic rifles have a wicked fire rate and virtually no recoil. Two Shot is nice but adds to the recoil which sucks.

[Warm Fuzzies™]

Originally posted by Pain Weasel:

Originally posted by Warm Fuzzies:

No....no.

Instigating Gauss Rifle still beats it. The Furious affix only stacks 10 times.

A Laser Musket with the Neverending Affix also beats it, and here is why;

And a Two Shot MIRV Fat Man trumps all.

I was assuming he was restricting it to automatic rifles which is really the only way a Furious legendary is any good. In that case it certainly is one of the best as the Handmade Automatic rifles have a wicked fire rate and virtually no recoil. Two Shot is nice but adds to the recoil which sucks.

Are you arguing Two Shot as a negative on a MIRV Fat Man? Cause uh, things don't survive long enough for recoil to even be a problem lol.

[Pain Weasel]

Originally posted by Warm Fuzzies:

Originally posted by Pain Weasel:

I was assuming he was restricting it to automatic rifles which is really the only way a Furious legendary is any good. In that case it certainly is one of the best as the Handmade Automatic rifles have a wicked fire rate and virtually no recoil. Two Shot is nice but adds to the recoil which sucks.

Are you arguing Two Shot as a negative on a MIRV Fat Man? Cause uh, things don't survive long enough for recoil to even be a problem lol.

No, only as it applies to Automatic rifles.

The topic title wasn't "best heavy weapon in the game" after all

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Warm Fuzzies:

No....no.

Instigating Gauss Rifle still beats it. The Furious affix only stacks 10 times.

A Laser Musket with the Neverending Affix also beats it, and here is why;

The Neverending mod can make certain weapons unstable. For example, a laser musket with the effect will consume all ammunition for the gun that is currently in the player inventory. However, as the musket uses its "energy reservoir" to store the crank charge, and this mod sets the reservoir size to the amount of ammo in your inventory, the mod effectively removes the crank limit. Since the damage of the weapon is based on how many cranks you can give it, this gives that single shot a devastating amount of damage. For example, at 200 cranks, a single shot can do about 30,000 damage.

And a Two Shot MIRV Fat Man trumps all.

If we're talking about Neverending laser muskets (which don't occur under the normal limitations for legendary mods), all my best weapons are glitch-built, with abnormal parts.

Without using console commands, I could build something that was very much like a Neverending laser musket through glitches, but it would technically be some other weapon in terms of base statistics. It might not need more than a laser musket capacitor, though, since that's what seems to cause all the wonky behaviour.

[TorrentXL]

Meh, two-shot full auto-combat rifle does extremely well, and has much more comon ammo.

[Pain Weasel]

Originally posted by LiquidWolf:

Meh, two-shot full auto-combat rifle does extremely well, and has much more comon ammo.

Sure its a good gun, and much easier to get, but with a max fire rate of 90 it is outclassed by the auto handmade rifle with a fire rate of 375. The ammo can be a problem though, I'll give you that. I usually use the OG at lower levels and then switch to the Splattercannon or some other Handmade Rifle later. The fact you need lvl 4 & 5 gun skills to mod it makes it less than ideal at lower levels.

That being said you CAN get a Two Shot Handmade Rifle if you are lucky which is even better as long as you don't mind the extra recoil, which honestly shouldn't be a problem. They have a silly low recoil.

edit: splattercannon fire rate is 375, not 325.

[kaffekoppen]

Originally posted by Warm Fuzzies:

No....no.

Instigating Gauss Rifle still beats it. The Furious affix only stacks 10 times.

It beats it in damage per shot, but for DPS I'm not convinced. I haven't tried actually used any kind of scientific method here, but from my experience the Splattercannon pumps out more damage more consistently.

When I'm in close combat in particular, I'll take a Splattercannon over that gauss rifle any time.

I ran around testing all my best weapons against Super Mutant Warlords at level 100ish on Very Hard, and the Splattercannon was the most consistently useful ranged weapon I tried, and while I didn't measure time to kill with a stopwatch, I didn't find a weapon that seemed to kill faster. That includes explosive shotguns, two-shot gauss rifles, explosive minigun, wounding shotgun, two-shot versions of other rifles (combat, radium, assault, plasma), you name it.

That said, it's pretty obvious by that point that melee can do a heck of a lot more damage than ranged weapons with no ammo requirements. Melee is incredibly OP.

The only bad thing about the handmade rifle is that its ammo only drops in Nuka World without mods. It's not even rare ammo, vendors stock tons of it.

PS: A two-shot nuka-nuke launcher does more damage for sure, but that's not really as universally useful as other weapons. Good luck using it indoors :)

[Kasane Randell MFer]

depends on you. I prefer sneak attack perks with silent bolt action snipers. THe legendary modifier that does more damage when they have full health is insaine. Can litterly one shot everything. EVERYTHING.

[kaffekoppen]

I've found Instigating to be king for melee too, by the way. Mostly you can zip around using Blitz before anyone takes damage, and you can one-shot everything easily that way.

[Nite69]

Overseers Guardian (2 shot combat rifle), you can find it from the vendor at vault 81 (west side of diamond city)

Explosive Combat Shotgun is also great if you can get a legendary enemy to drop it

[ghpstage]

The handmade rifle is probably the king of base rifles, Splattercannon and its doppelgaenger are excellent as uniques. However, you have to go into Nuka World in order to get either the weapon (outside of rare legendary spawns), or its ammo which is a major drawback.
Similarly the Gauss is good for sniping and VATS, but struggles outside of that, uses rare ammo and takes time to gain access to.

As a result I would tout the Overseer's Guardian due to its use of very common ammo and ease of aquisition.

Ultimately though, if you start stacking the many available damage multipliers it doesn't really matter what you use as anything can have tremendous killing power.

[Ez Duzit]

When I wrote the op I probably should have said I play a mostly vanilla game with no weapon mods and am also well over lvl 100.

So my take on some of the weapons discussed is the wounding shotgun is good but it can't clear a room or take out a group of ghouls or raiders like the explosive shotgun. 6 Raiders with 2 shots, yup. More then 10 tightly ppacked ghouls in a cemetary with 1 shot, yup. Yeah you can't use it close up so you have to get em before they get too close. Not that big a deal. Used properly it is devastating and has my #2 slot.
As a nice bonus it makes the most amazing explosions when fired into water and the concussive force kills most water targest in 1 shot. If you have the explosive shotgun and haven't shot it into water yet, you have to try it !

But my oh my, oh my, the Splattercannon with stacking damage, blazing fire rate, large clip, vitually no recoil, and fast reload time is incredible for ALL AROUND GENERAL combat and easily takes my #1 weapon slot. It is THE weapon you want in your hands when walking thru the streets of a town with no idea where the enemies will pop out. Yeah ammo is only at Nuka world but by the time I finished the Nuka World dlc I had over 5000 rounds of ammo for it. Just kept trading ammo I don't use and other weapons & armor scrounged off the dead left in my wake, so almost no actual cost to me.
Never had the Neverending musket and it sounds like a great sniper rifle with some serious down sides. Not good for general combat, and who wants to deal with having to crank inbetween shots. Besides doesn't it blow thru its whole ammo supply in 1 uber kill shot? ( I might've misunderstood on that one).

And the instagating Gauss gun is brutal especially with the sneak perk, but given a choice between it and the SplatterCannon for general all around combat I'll take rthe splattercannon every time. Although the Gauss is probably the best sniper rifle in the game.

Also the 2 shot fat man is good but the Nuka-nuke is great. I just seems to kill with more force and has a noticibly wider area of effect. Plus it has a nice blue expplosion. Ya gotta love that.
Really fun for for properly ranged targets.

Now it's time to fire up FO4 and kill some bad guys..... But first I'm gonna go thru my crate of legendary weapons and see what other goodies I haven't played with yet.


Edited for speeling

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Ez Duzit:

Never had the Neverending musket and it sounds like a great sniper rifle with some serious down sides. Not good for general combat, and who wants to deal with having to crank inbetween shots. Besides doesn't it blow thru its whole ammo supply in 1 uber kill shot? ( I might've misunderstood on that one).

The normal rules for generating random legendary weapons prevent the Neverending prefix from being added to a laser musket, so you'll only have a Neverending laser musket if you make it with console commands or something similar.

It does indeed blow through your entire ammo supply of fusion cells in one shot.