Fallout 4

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iNGeN² Aug 11, 2020 @ 8:08am
2077
in 2077 Vault-Tec secretly launch multiple nuclear strike into face of earth (all countries across the globe)

alternate timeline #1:
Fallout

alternate timeline#2:
Cyberpunk

coincidence?,
i GUESS !!!
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itzRiceKrispies Aug 11, 2020 @ 8:40am 
Or it could be that 2 different companies created 2 separate post-apocalyptic games. Which Cyberpunk 2077 has quite a large number of differences from Fallout to be fair. Literally in the design philosophies. Cyberpunk is purely digital, Fallout is analog.

Also who told u it was Vault-tec that launched the bombs? Cause it wasn't. Fallout 4 has quite a few terminal entries to suggest it was not their doing actually.
iNGeN² Aug 11, 2020 @ 8:40am 
hahhaha, thanks
Von Faustien Aug 11, 2020 @ 8:44am 
Originally posted by ILikeRiceKrispies:
Or it could be that 2 different companies created 2 separate post-apocalyptic games. Which Cyberpunk 2077 has quite a large number of differences from Fallout to be fair. Literally in the design philosophies. Cyberpunk is purely digital, Fallout is analog.

Also who told u it was Vault-tec that launched the bombs? Cause it wasn't. Fallout 4 has quite a few terminal entries to suggest it was not their doing actually.

the enclave in 2 outright state it was China due to being pushed back almost to bejing by the T51 units and given they outright explain the plan to genocide you, your firends and family without lying i see no reason they'd lie about that. the terminal in the switchboard about the stealth subs and other entries at various listening posts also suport this.
These games are dire warnings sent from the future!!

奶小的姑娘 Aug 11, 2020 @ 9:11am 
In FO4 it's the nuclear war between the US and China, not Vault-Tec, believe it or not, its where the real world is heading. The Chinese Communist regime has shown to be an materialistic atheistic totalitarian regime similar to the Party in 1984.

While the left is busy at taking down Trump, Chinese shills has shown to be enthusiastic at giving a helping hand, the Chinese communist internet army is even stronger than the Russian and has control over Twitter trend and owns many Facebook and Youtube influencers and will not back off cause they're totalitarian and almighty like the Soviet Union, tension is raising.
Last edited by 奶小的姑娘; Aug 11, 2020 @ 9:25am
Eminem Aug 11, 2020 @ 9:31am 
Starfield, DUH!!!
Von Faustien Aug 11, 2020 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by 奶小的姑娘:
In FO4 it's the nuclear war between the US and China, not Vault-Tec, believe it or not, its where the real world is heading. The Chinese Communist regime has shown to be an materialistic atheistic totalitarian regime similar to the Party in 1984.

While the left is busy at taking down Trump, Chinese shills has shown to be enthusiastic at giving a helping hand, the Chinese communist internet army is even stronger than the Russian and has control over Twitter trend and owns many Facebook and Youtube influencers and will not back off cause they're totalitarian and almighty like the Soviet Union, tension is raising.


once the USA and CHINA reduce the world to ash Canada shall march forth from our frozen ice fortress across the ashen wastes and claim the world in the name of the great one Tim Horton bringer of coffee and player of hockey.
Last edited by Von Faustien; Aug 11, 2020 @ 10:10am
Rotiart Aug 11, 2020 @ 10:02am 
Originally posted by Von Faustien:
Originally posted by 奶小的姑娘:
In FO4 it's the nuclear war between the US and China, not Vault-Tec, believe it or not, its where the real world is heading. The Chinese Communist regime has shown to be an materialistic atheistic totalitarian regime similar to the Party in 1984.

While the left is busy at taking down Trump, Chinese shills has shown to be enthusiastic at giving a helping hand, the Chinese communist internet army is even stronger than the Russian and has control over Twitter trend and owns many Facebook and Youtube influencers and will not back off cause they're totalitarian and almighty like the Soviet Union, tension is raising.


once the USA and CHINA reduce the world to ash Canada shall march forth from our frozen ice fortress across the ashen wastes and claim the earth the world in the name of the great messia Tim Horton bringer of coffee and player of hockey.
Delete this immediately. The plan cannot be compromised.
itzRiceKrispies Aug 11, 2020 @ 10:03am 
Originally posted by Rotiart:
Originally posted by Von Faustien:


once the USA and CHINA reduce the world to ash Canada shall march forth from our frozen ice fortress across the ashen wastes and claim the earth the world in the name of the great messia Tim Horton bringer of coffee and player of hockey.
Delete this immediately. The plan cannot be compromised.
Its too late. WE ALREADY KNOW! MUHAHAHAHAHHA. :)
Darth Cannabis Aug 11, 2020 @ 10:16am 
Originally posted by The Inept European:
These games are dire warnings sent from the future!!

Let's see 35 currently, 2077 is 57 years away. Ah screw it, I will either be dead or in my 90's and all but ready for those bombs to drop. Not my problem....
Last edited by Darth Cannabis; Aug 11, 2020 @ 10:17am
hawkeye Aug 11, 2020 @ 10:56am 
You might find this interesting -

2077 in FO4 might be based on 1777 The Year Of The Hangman. A lot of FO4 is taken from the American Revolution. Supposedly 1777 looks like a line of gallows where traitors would be hung. I don't know but Hangman's Alley might get its name from that. I think the Boston Common was where hangings occurred.

FO4 also has similarities with pen and paper rpg's. Morrow Project dates from the 1970's when DnD was getting started. From wikipedia -

"One hundred and fifty years after the Third World War, the members of the Morrow Project wake (from being frozen and woken by computer damage) to a strange world. Instead of being part of an organized plan to rebuild their civilization, they find themselves isolated in a world where the War is only a distant legend, the people are ignorant of anything but the struggle to survive and strange mutated animals haunt their footsteps."

From the Ruins of Chicago module -

"What was once Wrigley Field is now the City’s marketplace as well as the City’s political and social center. It is one of the only places where people from outside the City meet with the
inhabitants on a more or less friendly basis. It is also likely that there is no other place on Lakes Michigan and Superior where so many different people get together and trade."

Sound familiar?

Call of Cthulhu as well. There is a module where a Boston professor digs up some alien artifact in Sumeria etc etc. There is an early CoC computer game by Bethesda that is very similar in style to FO4.

Most rpg's and sci-fi and fantasy novels borrow from others. Makes for a more interesting game.
Last edited by hawkeye; Aug 11, 2020 @ 10:59am
Darth Cannabis Aug 11, 2020 @ 11:34am 
Well Fallout in generally sticks a lot of easter eggs and references into their games.

Dunwich in particular is a repeating HP Lovecraft reference. We had the Dunwich building in 3, the location in 4, and so on.

( we could jump down the rabbit hole on that, but I am reserving any Lovecraft based discussion until after this Sunday.)
Flippy Aug 11, 2020 @ 11:48am 
Easy number to remember is all. Or its an alien code of some sort. You wont fool us again Area 51. :steamhappy:
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Darth Cannabis Aug 11, 2020 @ 11:58am 
Well there are a lot of fictional references to 2077.

Here is a small list I found on wiki.

The Arthur C. Clarke novel Rendezvous with Rama begins with an asteroid striking Italy at 0946 GMT on September 11, 2077 – destroying Padua and Verona and sinking Venice.
The main events of the 2013 sci-fi film Oblivion take place in March 2077.
The sci-fi series "Continuum" has a storyline that takes place in 2077.
The game Forsaken takes place in 2077.
In the Command & Conquer universe, the Fourth Tiberium War begins in 2077. The conflict ends with Kane and Nod having seemingly vanished, leaving GDI to activate the now fully completed Tiberium Control Network and begin the reclamation of the Earth's surface.
In the Mass Effect universe, the character Liara T'Soni is born in 2077.
Space Engineers, a popular Steam early access game, hints that it takes place in 2077.
In the Fallout series of video games, the bulk of a Sino-American war takes place in the 2070s. In early 2077, following 11 years of conflict, the United States finally liberates Alaska in Battle of Anchorage, driving Chinese forces out of the state. The situation across the world continues to deteriorate and on October 23rd 2077, what would be known as the "Great War" occurred in a nuclear exchange lasting 2 hours. The resulting apocalypse inflicts major damage to the Earth and causes the collapse of both nations and society itself.
Cyberpunk 2077
In Star Ocean: The Last Hope, the beginning of what it calls "World War III" takes place in 2077.
The plot of Vexille anime takes place in 2077.
In the Stargate SG-1 episode Out of Mind, Colonel Jack O'Neill is told that he has awoken in 2077.

So yeah if we go with oldest of references, it goes all the way back to an Arthur C Clarke novel.

But as you see, several other games, place major conflicts in the year 2077. The forth Tiberium War in Command & Conquer, World War III in Star Ocean.

Considering how much they stick references into fallout games, I would not be one bit surprised if the entire choice of year to or choosing 2077 as the year for the bombs to fall, just as a nod to Arthur C Clarke.
Last edited by Darth Cannabis; Aug 11, 2020 @ 12:04pm
Blackout Aug 11, 2020 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by 奶小的姑娘:
In FO4 it's the nuclear war between the US and China, not Vault-Tec, believe it or not, its where the real world is heading. The Chinese Communist regime has shown to be an materialistic atheistic totalitarian regime similar to the Party in 1984.

While the left is busy at taking down Trump, Chinese shills has shown to be enthusiastic at giving a helping hand, the Chinese communist internet army is even stronger than the Russian and has control over Twitter trend and owns many Facebook and Youtube influencers and will not back off cause they're totalitarian and almighty like the Soviet Union, tension is raising.

Frankly, I don't think anything like what happened in the Fallout Series would actually happen in real life. This is because no one wins in a nuclear war-otherwise known as MAD: Mutually Assured Destruction. Also, known as Everyone Dies. Furthermore, we have more efficient usage of resources than they do in the Fallout Universe-along with better computer tech. In addition to that there is a shifting focus(still to slow in my opinion) to renewable energy sources. This will hopefully reduce possible tension due to resources between nations in the future. With the end result being complete aversion of war/total nuclear devastation.

On the other hand we have global warming , and the effects that will cause. Lucky for us, the large majority of that is probably preventable(I think there was some report that said we had until 2030). Assuming global warming is not dealt with properly : than resource wars could happen. Either way, I still think it would a long time before American and China got into something even close to the war they had in the Fallout series. Even if they did, I would sincerely hope the leaders realizing that using nuclear weaponry to conduct warfare should never be on the table. This is because , the devastation it would cause to the world would make both sides loose the war.

Finally, regarding the internet: in Fallout's Pre-war society they did not have the internet(or at least what we know of the internet today). The closet thing they had to the Internet was something similiar to the military's : ARPANET. This system was designed to transfer information between scientists, and military officials in the 60's(?). In other word it was nothing more than a glorified Instant Message system, but yet it formed the backbone of the modern internet. Which was officially granted to the public in the 1990's(?). That is all the pre-war fallout society had: as far as I know. It is also noted that computers in the Fallout Universe are way behind modern tech. As such, you don't see phones/ smart watches/tablets etc. As a result the fallout universe has no publicly accessible internet, and thus no social media. With no social media/youtube/instagram/vine, there would be no way for Chinese government officials to turn people into communists in America using the internet(that the fallout series doesn't have) The only way I could think of is a Chinese State run propaganda campaign in the Fallout Pre-war society.

Anyway, thanks for reading!
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