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I found a Logic Error with the Pipboy in F4
Well the Intro show the Pipboy 1.0, not sure if we can call it Pipboy 1000.
The Device was made before the great War.
The Pipboy 2000 was used in Fallout and Fallout 2 in 2161 and 2241.
The Pipboy 3000 in Fallout 3 and NV in the Years 2277 and 2281.
Fallout 4 has the Year 2287 and use the Pipboy 3000 Mark 6.

When you remember, the Pipboy the Player in F4 uses, are the one the Scientist wear, who show us our Cryo-Cells.
The Problem there, the Game starts in 2077, but the Scientist is already wearing a Pipboy, we should not see before 2280.
When RobCo had already creat all Pipboy Versions before the War, why they use different Versions over the Time?
Is it the Area of the Games or are the better ones from after the War?
It would great, when the Player start the Game with the 2000 and need to found Upgrades to create the 3000 from it, like you upgrade the Power Armor.
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DukeWooze Jun 17, 2018 @ 2:52pm 
Bethesda was never really that great with lore.
Killzone Jun 17, 2018 @ 2:55pm 
Its a Pip-Boy 3000 Mark IV and pre-war.

JDaremo Fireheart Jun 17, 2018 @ 6:06pm 
no where does it say that the Bugthesda Devs are logical . . . the preview vid of 76 showed someone in BoS stuff but at that point in the timeline they are still in California . . . go figure.
Canon isn't sacred to Bugthesda
Hobo Misanthropus Jun 17, 2018 @ 6:18pm 
It's amazing how so called "Lore Experts" don't understand the lore the claim to safeguard.

All Pip-Boys are pre-war

Different versions are different SKUs, like how we have different phones that are essentially the same but with slightly more features.

It's very simple to understand to normal people, but you all aren't normal are you? You came in here with a goal, you wanted to find a "Gotcha" and were so dedicated you made yourself look foolish.

Well done.
Last edited by Hobo Misanthropus; Jun 17, 2018 @ 6:19pm
All I see is baby ragers
D.e.v.i.OS Jun 17, 2018 @ 6:48pm 
pimpboy 3 billion is in NV also.
Hobo Misanthropus Jun 17, 2018 @ 6:54pm 
Originally posted by D.e.v.i.OS :
pimpboy 3 billion is in NV also.

Obsidian did it so it's canon. Don't you know how to Fallout?
Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:
It's amazing how so called "Lore Experts" don't understand the lore the claim to safeguard.

I'm no Lore Expert, just a curious Player.

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:
All Pip-Boys are pre-war

After the Tech Level you see in the World, its clear they can't be created after the War.

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:
Different versions are different SKUs, like how we have different phones that are essentially the same but with slightly more feaures.

Well if you see it that Way, I give you another Example.
In 2009 Apple has presented the iPhone 3.
If you now use the "PipBoy-Effect" on this, then you will find an Photo where someone is using an iPhone 6 there.

I know the Developers have use different Numbers, so it fit into the different Times in the Games, but it is not Lore friendly.
When all Pipboys are developed before the War, then all Vaults should be on the newest Version, like Vault 111.

Another Reason for another Device is, Fallout 1 & 2 never show the Pipboy as an Attachment.
The Pipboy 2000 is just a Menu, maybe that Pipboy is more like an Tablet Computer as an Wrist Device.

To fit it in the Lore, you could say, the Resource Scarcity has maybe prevent all Vaults to get the newest Pipboy, so some Vaults have old Versions.
Another Point, why this could be the Reason, is the difference between Vault 111 and Vault 101.
In Vault 101, every Person get a Pipboy after reaching the Age of 10, in Vault 111 are just one Pipboy (if I remember right, no other Scientist had an Pipboy, just the one you get later at the Entrance, who was used by the Scientist, who lead you to the Cryo Chambers).
I know this is an old post but HOW did you find a "logic error" with Fallout 4's pipboy? They are all pre-war and there are only small differences over time. Like the overpriced and overrated iphone. Basically the same thing year after year but with somewhat different features. The models have nothing to do with what years or games, not when the pipboy from Fallout 1 and 2 are basically the same as the pipboy from Fallout 76, only in FO76 is what the pipboy from the first two FO games would have looked like if they had been 3D games. The models have more to do with WHERE the vaults are located and their numbers. Some vaults in a certain number range got the 2000s, others got the 2000 mk VI while vaults with numbers in between may have gotten mk II - mk Vs or 3000s, while on the east coast got a mixture of 3000s and 3000 mk IVs.

Saying that the 3000 mk IVs should not exist before 2280 is, sorry to say, a really silly leap in "logic" and not at all how it works. As someone above commented, this is not a difficult concept to understand. With computing, things have never just stayed the same. Computers (especially personal computing) have been constantly evolving since the first consumer home computers in the 70s. Imagine if computers had remained the same since 1983 with only minor changes. It makes sense that the pipboy from FO4 is the most advanced as the vaults they were found in tended to be those with the higher numbers in the Commonwealth rather the Capital Wasteland. The vault number also doesn't really mean the order in which the vault was built either. Like ships in the US Navy, a class of ships can have for example the numbers 100, 101, 102, 103, 104. Now 100 may have been laid down first, but 103 could have been laid down 3rd but finished 1st while 104 could have been finished 2nd so the numbers were launched and finished in this order, 103, 104, 100, 101, 102.

So the vaults in the commonwealth would have gotten the latest version of the pipboy and being the last version they are the most capable as they are able to open vaults by themselves, play video games as well as having a better more compact payout compared to the versions before it. The commonwealth and Maine also have the largest number of incomplete vaults which makes sense.

So no, there is no "logic error" with the pipboy in FO4.
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Date Posted: Jun 17, 2018 @ 2:50pm
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