Preston Garvey's "Endless" Missions

[Jurassic Fart 1]

Does Preston Garvey keep giving missions until a certain point in the storyline is passed, or are his "Help this settlement" missions finite, limited in number?

This "oh, one more thing" business is starting to become tedious. It makes me feel like a waiter again where this idiot four-top askes for more pepper sauce, and then when I start to leave the table after delivering it, "Could we have another breadbasket?" and then when I try to leave after that, it's some other ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing.

I wanna say, "Look, I'll be right back with a pad and pencil so you can make a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ LIST!"

[dzantor]

I never met preston on purpose, cause I built only couple settlements for own use in suruvival mode since i don't like overcrowed wasteland. So i can't get missions from preston.

So does billboard in Diamond city or any other place also has unlimited missions? If not, is there any mod to fix that?

[Othobrithol]

Every faction has a few infinite radiant missions.

[Tesityr]

Originally posted by Espek:

I never met preston on purpose, cause I built only couple settlements for own use in suruvival mode since i don't like overcrowed wasteland. So i can't get missions from preston.

So does billboard in Diamond city or any other place also has unlimited missions? If not, is there any mod to fix that?

If I may pop in on the Unlimited Missions aspect, if you progress in the game further, you will eventually become part of a Faction that will have Radiant Quests for you (they 'radiate out from the location') that will be repeatable ad infinitum. AFAIK those boards with knives/postings only have the one Quest/Mission and sadly I have not seen them 'respawn' any more after that. So, even without constant attacks at Settlements to get XP/gear/loot/etc, you will always 'eventually' run into a Faction member that will dispense repeatable missions for you. GL

Edit:
Oops I didn't see this

Originally posted by Othobrithol:

Every faction has a few infinite radiant missions.

well; "if I may add..." heh

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Pure_Phoenix:

If i might add my humble experiences and gossipping here... [Spoilers ahead]

1. You don't have to go and manually defend a settlement once it has enough Defence.
Seriously. Just ignore the quest and let your defences do the work. You still get the XP.

2. This puts a "Cap" on settlement related quests at roughly 20 (plus 1 each per settlement to 'gain their favour' and be able to use their workbench... MIGHT equal 40 total).
As long as they're sufficiently defended, settlements should survive past their initial discovery + building up. They don't all legitimately need your help. They just need a higher defence stat than anything else.

3. If you run out Settlers/turrets and still lose resources to raiders / fail Minuteman quests, don't forget you can 'add' an unlimited amount of Robotron DLC bots to a settlement. They don't count towards the maximum so you can order them to defend stuf.

It a good thing you spoiler taged that reply. Most of it made no sense at all.

1. Defending settlement attacks has nothing to do with Preston's infinite radiant missions.

2. Settlements generate missions WITHOUT the use of Preston. Preston was meant to be a middle man to stop you form running around to each settlement to check on them. Of course you would know this if you actually read the topic.

3. Again defending settlement attacks has nothing to do with Preston's infinite radiant missions. Automatron robots make zero difference in the auto-resolve formula. The auto resolve does NOT factor in gear for your population, it only uses defense totals and population to generate a chance for you to win, which is never 100% chance to win.

Keep this in mind:
If you bring up the quest Preston gives to go build defenses against the 3 super mutants, 3 gunnners, 3 raiders, etc that is NOT a radiant. That is your fault for not having enough defense at a settlement. Most likely you JUST had a quest to claim that settlement and ran off to hand it in for the reward. Had you built enough defense those quests never occur. After a settlement has enough defense you never get such a quest to defend a settlement again. So technically, Preston never gives out settlement defense quests.

[Slaughterer]

0. Spoiler tag your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ replies, you uncivilised curr.


1. Yes they do. They automatically 'suceed' without you having to attend them personally.

2. Wrong.

3. Also wrong. I tested it ingame, over literally hundreds of hours.

"Keep this in mind";- No. That's not what i'm referring to.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Pure_Phoenix:

0. Spoiler tag your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ replies, you uncivilised curr.

You really are mentally challenged aint you?

The game has been out for THREE years, I aint spoiler tagging anything. Plus I said NOTHING that spoils any story or plot in the game.

1. Preston does NOT give out settlement defense quests. Which tells me that you are clueless and do not even know a radiant quest is.

I tried explaining to you any settlment claimed that has a population and a defnse lower than 8 is going to trigger the go build a defense quest. It is NOT a radiant quest, because it is NOT repeatable.

If you built a defense of more thna 8 when you claimed it you will not see that quest when you hand in the quest to claim it with a beacon.

If you are a dumbass and go hand the settlement claiming mission in without building a defense of more than 8 Preston is going to slap your dumb lazy face with the quest to go back and build a defense.

2. Preston is NOT required to get directly from settlers. If they need help they will ask for help on their own upon your next visit. Preston started as a middleman to prevent you running around, until some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ decided to give make him a radiant quest giver that cant be refused. How you even can say this is wrong pretty much shows how little you know.

3. You have no idea what the settlement attack formula and the settlement defense chance formula even is. Yet you want to argue over it. Neither forumla gives a ♥♥♥♥ what your settlement is equipped with, how it is layed out. The formulas only use raw numbers.

4. You have 100 hours played and I have 3400 hours played. Yet you want to argue game mechanics with me. Good luck with that because you aint ever going to be right.

[dzantor]

So there is no mod that makes billboard missions like in Boarderlands?

[Tesityr]

Originally posted by Espek:

So there is no mod that makes billboard missions like in Boarderlands?

If I may state, there is no need for one, as once you 'join a Faction' in the game, there is always a member that wants you to do things over and over (forever) for the Faction you joined.

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

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2. Preston is NOT required to get directly from settlers. If they need help they will ask for help on their own upon your next visit. Preston started as a middleman to prevent you running around, until some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ decided to give make him a radiant quest giver that cant be refused. How you even can say this is wrong pretty much shows how little you know.

One slight nitpick. Maybe there is a workaround. If I do Prestons first mission but refuse to join the minutemen, some settlements will not talk to me. I mean they do say generic hello talk, but they never give a quest so that I can take over the settlement. I do have the We Are The Minutemen mod active. Oberland Station was one.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Out Of Bubblegum:

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

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2. Preston is NOT required to get directly from settlers. If they need help they will ask for help on their own upon your next visit. Preston started as a middleman to prevent you running around, until some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ decided to give make him a radiant quest giver that cant be refused. How you even can say this is wrong pretty much shows how little you know.

One slight nitpick. Maybe there is a workaround. If I do Prestons first mission but refuse to join the minutemen, some settlements will not talk to me. I mean they do say generic hello talk, but they never give a quest so that I can take over the settlement. I do have the We Are The Minutemen mod active. Oberland Station was one.

Your mod is the issue.

Ten Pines remains the same only there is no Preston involved. The rest of the populated settlements all pick a radiant at random to do in order to have them join. The unpopulated settlements can simpyl be captured by clearing it or settlers in one of you current settlements will give you a "Clearing the Way" mission to go claim it.

Trust me I leave Preston in the museum until I feel like letting him out, well except for the bugs where he he appears outside, like after Vault 81 he can be seen running away.

That way I can claim settlements at my own pace and not get roped into doing radiants. I never liekd the randomnness of "hey go get this settlement" and have to blaze your way through "unexplored territory" just to build a settlement in an area you are not currently active in.

Plus the added bonus is that when you let the crew out of the museum they ALWAYS go to Sanctuary, in other words they ignore the cha settler limit. So in other words you can jump your settlement form a population of like 35 to 40 once you let them out.

[The Inept European]

Interesting. I was considering leaving them in the museum this (Survival) playthrough. I mean Preston is ok and I like Sturges, but the Longs and Mama Mia - please no.

But to beat the population cap, maybe it's just worth it.

I definitely like the idea of expanding logically and at your own pace, rather than as you say running across the map at Preston's bidding, crossing dangerous territory and building up settlements you can't even safely move between (on Survival).

[Jurassic Fart 1]

Originally posted by The Inept European:

OP that was a very mature apology and also a smart move re the trolls. Don't feed the trolls is always good advice. Respect to you, sir

I'm not as smart as I think I am. Can you believe that it took me fourteen years to have learned this?

However, even at my advanced near-geriatric age of 58, there's evidently hope for me yet; the neural pathways for the formation of new engrams is stall sufficiently plastic for me to be able to learn. I blame PTSD and multiple TBIs (one of which resulted in death for about ten or fifteen minutes) for the apallingly slow rate at which I learn things.

I don't mind taking advice from someone else, and I don't mind being proven wrong. When someone takes the trouble to correct an education deficit, it's flattering; it demonstrates that their opinion of you is such that they believe you to be capable of benefitting from them. But, when someone just denigrates or ridicules, and is very easily incited to wrath—especially unmitigated bellicosity—they're demonstrating that they are exhibiting an alarming number of symptoms of suprarectafossalosis¹, so one should just back off.

¹ Don't bother looking this up in Merriam's or Oxford's—you won't find it there. I got it from a Rosie O'Donnel stand-up routine back from before she became a talk show host, when she was actually funny. With rudimentary knowledge of Latin, though, you should be able to parse its intended meaning.

[The Inept European]

Yeah I can just about figure out the meaning. :-)

[Slaughterer]

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Originally posted by Pure_Phoenix:

0. Spoiler tag your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ replies, you uncivilised curr.

You really are mentally challenged aint you?

The game has been out for THREE years, I aint spoiler tagging anything. Plus I said NOTHING that spoils any story or plot in the game.

1. Preston does NOT give out settlement defense quests. Which tells me that you are clueless and do not even know a radiant quest is.

I tried explaining to you any settlment claimed that has a population and a defnse lower than 8 is going to trigger the go build a defense quest. It is NOT a radiant quest, because it is NOT repeatable.

If you built a defense of more thna 8 when you claimed it you will not see that quest when you hand in the quest to claim it with a beacon.

If you are a dumbass and go hand the settlement claiming mission in without building a defense of more than 8 Preston is going to slap your dumb lazy face with the quest to go back and build a defense.

2. Preston is NOT required to get directly from settlers. If they need help they will ask for help on their own upon your next visit. Preston started as a middleman to prevent you running around, until some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ decided to give make him a radiant quest giver that cant be refused. How you even can say this is wrong pretty much shows how little you know.

3. You have no idea what the settlement attack formula and the settlement defense chance formula even is. Yet you want to argue over it. Neither forumla gives a ♥♥♥♥ what your settlement is equipped with, how it is layed out. The formulas only use raw numbers.

4. You have 100 hours played and I have 3400 hours played. Yet you want to argue game mechanics with me. Good luck with that because you aint ever going to be right.

Doesn't matter how long it's been out. At least put a spoiler warning, else you're just a douche.
You don't think you spoiled story content after 3,400 hours of gameplay, you're projecting when you accuse others of being mentally challenged

1. Yes he does. If you ignore the 'x settlement needs help' quests they frequently just complete -themselves- because you're only there to help -defend- them. If your defences are high enough, they win by default. I'm not saying they don't get attacked you friggin' moron. I'm saying they WIN by default. Two adv minigun turrets is more than enough.

So points 3 + 4 are moot, because you can't even read & comprehend basic English.

P.S I actually have more hours played than you, i only just recently bought the game -on steam-, which is how i know about OG's location, how to sneak attack, where to get the first Camera in Concord etc. If you weren't projecting when you try to insult anothers' intellect, you'd have picked that up for yourself that i'm a LOT more knowledgeable than i should be.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Pure_Phoenix:

Doesn't matter how long it's been out. At least put a spoiler warning, else you're just a douche. You don't think you spoiled story content after 3,400 hours of gameplay, you're projecting when you accuse others of being mentally challenged :steamfacepalm.

I tried warning you to stop arguing with me when you dont know ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about the game. Yet you insisted anyways.

spoiler
noun
something that reveals important plot elements or details from a work of fiction or non-fiction.

As I said before I do not need to spoiler tag ANYTHING because NOTHING I posted has ANYTHING to do with the plot of the game. Settlement defense game mechanics are not a plot.

For the third time there is no settlement defense radiant quests given by Preston.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_4_quests#The_Minutemen

Before you say a word about the defend quest at the bottom that is the general quest given the moment a settlement is attacked, it is NOT given by Preston.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_4_settlements

There is both the settlement attack chance and the chance to win an auto-resolve. Notice there is no 100% chance to win like you claimed earlier.

Originally posted by Pure_Phoenix:

you'd have picked that up for yourself that i'm a LOT more knowledgeable than i should be.

You have done nothing but prove the opposite. Absolutely none of the information you post about in any of the topics has even been close to right.

I provided you with the right information and you have done nothing but scream about spoilers while claiming I was wrong.

Speaking of spoilers you still dont know what one is.

So I guess this is the part where you either man up and apologize for your pathetic behavior, or you try claim 3 years worth of collected information on a wiki is wrong, or you just stfu and stop replying out of embarassment of being proven wrong.