5 murders ? Where ? Who ?

[StarKnight]

I do not understand one thing :

I started the game again, and I arrived at the Cambridge police station to help the paladin Danse. I then go to Ark Jet Systems to recover the long-range transmitter with Danse. At a time when synthetics will attack us below a nuclear thruster, I had saved, and at this point I had no murder in my crimes.

But after talking to Danse (unfortunately I did not keep save at this moment), I return to the complex to recover material (junks, laser weapons synthetics ... etc), and when I come out or at least when I come back to the police station, without going anywhere since I got straight to Santuary to empty my inventory, improve my weapons, repair my armor ... etc, suddenly, coming back at the police station without having killed anything else (I just returned to Sanctuary as I said), and there I see in my crimes that I have FIVE murders to my credit !

But where and who I could kill when I met no one between these two moments ??? Leaving Ark Jet I killed only 2 super mutants who arrived at the entrance of Ark Jet, it would surprise me that a lost bullet could kill 5 people (civilians, inhabitants, whatever ...) !

Why did the game flank me 5 murders in my crimes while I killed no one !? In addition, I'm careful to kill only aggressive NPCs, raiders, ghouls and all the bestiary of the game ... and only them !

I know, it may not matter, it may not change anything, but I play RP if I can say it that way.

I'm not new to the game, and I remember that in my previous games I also had 5 murders in my crimes and I always wondered why, where and when I could have killed 5 people ... ! (???)

And I got to the stage where I had to go to the institute after all the other quests of the game, major story quest, faction quests, Brotherhood, Militia / Minutemen (all the colonies), Railroad Network ... etc, all, everything, and I had gone after all these quests, even the side quests and I had almost visited all the places of the game ... And arrived there I had too only these 5 murders in my crimes !

I hope I made myself clear.

[Tenkillsmore]

Must be adding mine [murders] to yours, as I have killed innocents and have a murder count of 0.

[Shadow]

who keeps track?

[StarKnight]

I did not place any explosive mine anywhere. Are mines placed by the game and when innocents pass over and die, it's counted as murder, that's what you say ?

It annoys me but I will take a backup well before leaving to Ark Jet with Dance, I would see if I still have these 5 murders.

[oldrotorhead1]

At Nuka-World I stealth killed (in hiding, suppressed weapons) all of the unnamed Gunners I could find before I started Open Season (the others don't become hostile unless they see you). At the end I had 77 murders added to my total.

[StarKnight]

Wow, that's a lot ! lol

[StarKnight]

I finally found why I have 5 murders :

The last 5 or 6 synths that took the transmitter before us and immediately attack us when we arrive in the room (a control room, something like that, on the highest floor) are considered murders when you kill them, it's not logical at all, it's clearly a defect of the game that has, it seems, never been corrected !!!

: ((((

[Chaosium]

Let Danse kill them for you, boom.

[mainer]

That happened to me on my very first play through back when FO4 first came out and before I started modding it (I always play one vanilla trial run before I start modding).

I just was randomly checking my stats, and lo & behold I had 4 murders to my credit. I always play a good-type character and am very careful about collateral damage in fire fights, and never intentionally just assassinate someone (unless you include long range sniper attacks on raiders & gunners, but I don't believe the game counts that as murder).

I was further along in the game than you were, but I still had no idea where it happened. Never did figure that out. But that was the only time it happened, but like you, it just annoyed me to have it in my stats, even though it doesn't really mean anything.

[ƎϽ∀ƎԀ]

On the way to Ark Jet with Danse for the first time you meet about 5 raiders holding up a trader group, under the trestle. Every time after this fire fight I get 3 murders for the traders deaths during the fight. Thats probably your first murders.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Gamcull:

On the way to Ark Jet with Danse for the first time you meet about 5 raiders holding up a trader group, under the trestle. Every time after this fire fight I get 3 murders for the traders deaths during the fight. Thats probably your first murders.

Yeah, I was going to suggest this as well.

[StarKnight]

OK thanks for your answers, guys !

PS: I also crossed the caravan (trader group) but I killed only the raiders, and I did not have murders to my credit. But if I had killed the merchant or his guards, they would be probably counted as murders.

[StarKnight]

Originally posted by Gamcull:

On the way to Ark Jet with Danse for the first time you meet about 5 raiders holding up a trader group, under the trestle. Every time after this fire fight I get 3 murders for the traders deaths during the fight. Thats probably your first murders.

No I took a backup where I was already in the ArkJet complex with 0 murders, and actually, very regularly looking at my stats (murders), just before meeting these 5 synthetics I had 0 murders and just after the 5 synths I had the 5 murders, so it can only be that, it's undeniably these 5 synthetics killed that counted me as murder.

[no1schmo]

A likely story!

[TyrrellP34]

Originally posted by StarKnight:

No I took a backup where I was already in the ArkJet complex with 0 murders, and actually, very regularly looking at my stats (murders), just before meeting these 5 synthetics I had 0 murders and just after the 5 synths I had the 5 murders, so it can only be that, it's undeniably these 5 synthetics killed that counted me as murder.

I know this is necro, but.
That's right, synths in the control room in ArcJet always add to the murder count for some bethesda reason. So if you want to keep your murder stats at zero, leave them to Danse to deal with.