nucleus have any normal beds all on floor? survival mode need sleep long period of talking

[coffeebrains]

i am almost dead with all the talking ...only 4 hour beds wtf?

[Milchknilch]

I know this is rather old, still I had the same question and stumbled upon it. Now here's a hint: There are beds in the Nucleus Command Center. Or you could use the "Sofa Surfer - Sleeping on Couches" mod and sleep in the submarine on Tektus' couch.

[coffeebrains]

Originally posted by Milchknilch:

I know this is rather old, still I had the same question and stumbled upon it. Now here's a hint: There are beds in the Nucleus Command Center. Or you could use the "Sofa Surfer - Sleeping on Couches" mod and sleep in the submarine on Tektus' couch.

ill bring socums joe coffee's i guess

[Bored Peon]

Survival Options mod has a tool for changing sleep rules regarding mattresses and such.

You kind of need to use it because of your example, Nucleus should have had beds. The same way the rooms for rent at Bunker Hill should have.

It kinda sucks you have to adjust the rule for all mattress just because of a few locations that were never adjusted for survival.

[Nite69]

use this map for all the bed locations

https://i.imgur.com/1tJFq0U.jpg

[Tesityr]

If I may pop in, you can actually sleep on 'normal' beds for more than 4 hours, but they have to be "Full" beds (not matresses, or sleeping bags, etc) - just in case this isn't referring to a game mod, or someone finds this and wants to know about "sleeping more hours" on a bed in non-modded game Survival Mode...

[Iron Knights]

Survival wise, you spend more time on uncomfortable surfaces than a bed, not less.

[The Inept European]

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[The Inept European]

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

It kinda sucks you have to adjust the rule for all mattress just because of a few locations that were never adjusted for survival.

I agree yeah. It's frustrating that places that really should have beds, don't. And it's frustrating that you can't improvise. You're so tired you're hallucinating, but you can't lie down on a couch or a warm dry safe floor.

They should have separated the save mechanics from the sleep mechanics. Although to be honest you should be able to do both anywhere. Maybe a cool down timer on saves would have been a better way of limiting them than making you find a bed.

I don't like using the bed mods though because almost all of them make it just too easy. I have settled for using the bed map (link above) as my "cheat".

[The Inept European]

Originally posted by Tesityr:

If I may pop in, you can actually sleep on 'normal' beds for more than 4 hours, but they have to be "Full" beds (not matresses, or sleeping bags, etc)

Yes when the OP said "normal beds" that's what they meant, normal beds.

[The Inept European]

The problem is not so much places that only have sleeping bags or mattresses. You can just sleep multiple times on those. It's inconvenient and less efficient but not a terminal problem. When there isn't even a sleeping bag in a location where you should be able to sleep, or (because of game reasons) where you need to be able to sleep, that's really annoying.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by The Inept European:

I agree yeah. It's frustrating that places that really should have beds, don't. And it's frustrating that you can't improvise.

You can technically improve with the console commands and place a bed, but it a complete and utter pain in the ass with the x,y,z placement trial and error. The amount of time it would take to place and position a bed right at Bunker Hill it is literally faster to just go clear the ghoul house and use that bed.

You also can not really fix it with mods either because the mod would conflict with any ENB in the area and would conflict Sim Settlements because it creates a scrap profile conflict for the settlement.

Yet this is something that should have been fixed with the game implemented survival. Something like the beds in Goodneighbor's hotel. It is a frame with mattress dropped on it, but given bed attributes.

[The Inept European]

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Originally posted by The Inept European:

Yet this is something that should have been fixed with the game implemented survival.

Totally agree.

By "improvise" I meant the base game should let you sleep anywhere and just give a sleep quality penalty based on how good or bad the place is.

[Tesityr]

Originally posted by The Inept European:

Originally posted by Tesityr:

If I may pop in, you can actually sleep on 'normal' beds for more than 4 hours, but they have to be "Full" beds (not matresses, or sleeping bags, etc)

Yes when the OP said "normal beds" that's what they meant, normal beds.

Yet when the OP said "4 hours" that's not a normal bed... not sure how you missed that

[The Inept European]

Originally posted by Tesityr:

Originally posted by The Inept European:

Yes when the OP said "normal beds" that's what they meant, normal beds.

Yet when the OP said "4 hours" that's not a normal bed... not sure how you missed that

Yes the OP is asking for normal beds, NOT just 4 hours - not sure how you missed that.

[Bored Peon]

When you play on survival sleeping anywhere besides a normal bed is pointless because you are going to still wake up tired because it does not allow you to sleep longer than four hours on a mattress.