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danconnors Mar 24, 2019 @ 7:13am
Dogs Can't Do This
Just outside Diamond City, after my first visit. I found the corpses of two vicious mutts and was busily cooking them in that little rest room just outside the city. I hear a hair raising sound; the door is opening. The door opens outward. Then I hear a growling. Then I am attacked, and almost killed. The shotgun--just barely--beats the vicious Alpha dog to the kill. As it is I barely survive, and am sick immediately.

Look, I hate to be a party pooper, but dogs can't open doors, especially doors that have to be dragged backwards. The mutt would have to find some part of the door to get his teeth around, and then would have to drag backwards. In spite of seeing Dogmeat do it all the time, it just can't be done. I didn't sleep while in the city, and I'm playing survival mode. If that flea bitten dog had killed me I would have REALLY been ticked off.
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Jouni Mar 24, 2019 @ 7:59am 
Dogs were probably given this ability just because there's a dog companion. Don't know what difference it makes. Since enemies never close doors Dogmeat wouldn't get stuck unless you intended it.
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MortVent Mar 24, 2019 @ 8:05am 
you would be surprised what they can do, check youtube.

And remember there are many people with trained service dogs that open those same doors for them...
Chaosium Mar 24, 2019 @ 8:37am 
You also can't carry 300 pounds of equipment nor withstand more than 3 gunshots and yet here you are
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Incunabulum Mar 24, 2019 @ 9:25am 
Originally posted by danconnors:
Just outside Diamond City, after my first visit. I found the corpses of two vicious mutts and was busily cooking them in that little rest room just outside the city. I hear a hair raising sound; the door is opening. The door opens outward. Then I hear a growling. Then I am attacked, and almost killed. The shotgun--just barely--beats the vicious Alpha dog to the kill. As it is I barely survive, and am sick immediately.

Look, I hate to be a party pooper, but dogs can't open doors, especially doors that have to be dragged backwards. The mutt would have to find some part of the door to get his teeth around, and then would have to drag backwards. In spite of seeing Dogmeat do it all the time, it just can't be done. I didn't sleep while in the city, and I'm playing survival mode. If that flea bitten dog had killed me I would have REALLY been ticked off.


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Vivio Mar 24, 2019 @ 9:32am 
guess you never seen police or military dogs? dogs are quite capable of opening doors with training thats not to say that they can open every door but most standard doors
Last edited by Vivio; Mar 24, 2019 @ 9:33am
MortVent Mar 24, 2019 @ 9:48am 
Originally posted by Vivio:
guess you never seen police or military dogs? dogs are quite capable of opening doors with training thats not to say that they can open every door but most standard doors

And a dog living in an urban area can learn themselves, see the various dogs that use the subways and in war torn areas.
Haerken Mar 24, 2019 @ 10:02am 
Best dog when I was a teen was a dog that went with us hunting. We'd sit at the picnic table after getting back and he'd curl back his lips and use his teeth to pick 100's of tickseed or beggartick off our pants. I have seen a dog climb about 5 feet up a slanted tree, and another that could open the door by the handle. Had to latch the door to keep him out.
Last edited by Haerken; Mar 24, 2019 @ 10:06am
Listen, I don't think Fallout 4 is meant to be a realistic depiction of dog capabilities. I can't imagine you could instruct a dog to travel to a specific location in metro Boston (beyond 'GO HOME') when the dog's services are no longer needed. Granted, German shepherds are quite smart, but they're not THAT smart.

I don't think dogs can absorb massive amounts of radiation without consequence either or be able to heal themselves on command.

As someone already mentioned, most dogs can't carry hundreds of kilograms of ammunition, medical supplies, guns and armour.
Vivio Mar 24, 2019 @ 11:36am 
but how do you know the rads didnt give the dogs some sort of super powers ;) maybe the dogs have perk points too and spec'ed into strongback
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Jork Mar 24, 2019 @ 11:37am 
dogs also can't levitate yet dogmeat does it all the time
spared_life Mar 24, 2019 @ 11:39am 
That ain't nothing, even radroaches can open doors.
Originally posted by Vivio:
but how do you know the rads didnt give the dogs some sort of super powers ;) maybe the dogs have perk points too and spec'ed into strongback

That is true. Dogmeat may not be as awesome as D-Dog, but but he is still an extraordinary dog.
Jouni Mar 24, 2019 @ 11:53am 
Originally posted by spared_life:
That ain't nothing, even radroaches can open doors.
They can't. Ferals can do it and apparently dogs can do it but I don't think that there are any other non-NPC enemies that can do it.
=EGC= kansasterry Mar 24, 2019 @ 12:10pm 
Well I guess it depends on the door as there is a lot of real world footage of certain dogs that can, one of a dog even unlocking a padlock (the owners left the key in it) to open a fence gate.

Though in most of those they did not need to turn a round doorknob to do so but they were able to pull on doors.

Game-wise however they should not and that includes the follower dog he should only go through if we open the door for him with the exception of zoning to interior cells.

I consider it an annoying bug to have that dog somehow open even a locked door at times just because he got close to it so now I either never bring him along as a follower or dismiss him after concord when I start a new game.
Last edited by =EGC= kansasterry; Mar 24, 2019 @ 12:10pm
Mielikki Kettu Mar 24, 2019 @ 12:30pm 
Originally posted by Jouni:
They can't. Ferals can do it and apparently dogs can do it but I don't think that there are any other non-NPC enemies that can do it.
Every character is NPC, just saying. NPC means literally "Nono Player Character" that includes Dogs, Roaches, Ghouls, Mutants and what not.
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