Super mutant energy resistance?

[Out Of Bubblegum]

The wiki just has a ? for how much energy resistance they have. I am guessing it is high. I hit them with a 7x damage laser rifle or a 4X damage combat rifle. The combat rifle seems more effective. Anyone know numbers?

[ghpstage]

I don't know the numbers, nor do I know what 4X and 7X mean, but its likely you are seeing the results of one of the DR bugs at least to some extent.

Energy and ballistic DR values can't be compared as is. This is because ballistic DR is compared against modified ballistic damage, while energy DR is compared against the weapons base damage. This makes a big difference that gets worse as you get more modifiers.

In order to make them comparable you have to multiply the energy DR by the damage multiplier applied to the shot. If you had say, just gunslinger 2 in play thats 1.4, which is already considerable, but this can readily become very large, especially as sneak multipliers are included....

It means that a combat rifle with lower DAM will usually outperform a laser rifle with higher DAM, even against targets that claim to have higher ballistic DR.
Along with the crit energy DR bug (which is similar, but worse) its the main reason that lasers always underperform, and fare very poorly later in the game. The rifleman DR penetration not applying to energy happens too, but its small fry compared to this.

EDIT
The variants that do have energy DR displayed on the wiki all have a considerably higher ballistic resistance value. This is likely a trend that extends to the whole family, but as discussed above, isn't really the 'true' value.

[Out Of Bubblegum]

7x means 70+ something and 4x mean 40+ something because I dont remeber the exact numbers without the game running. I think 72 vs 49.
I forgot about the funny way energy damage is calculated.
Now I looked a little closer at the wiki page. Like you said, some of the classes of SM do list the energy DR. It is about 2/3 of the ballistic DR.

Oh well. Too complicated. I will just stick to ballistic weapons for SM.

[ghpstage]

Originally posted by Out Of Bubblegum:

Oh well. Too complicated. I will just stick to ballistic weapons for SM.

This is best in the overwhelming majority of circumstances.

Enraged fogcrawlers being the exception, and even then, its far from certain that energy is better against them!

[Nara]

Personally I just hit them with the furious power fist from Swan. It often one shotted them if you got the head in very hard... I do not like the words I am using ._. But in survival with Horizon installed (or maybe survival in general idk) I find ballistic sniper rifles the best, unless I am close or just happen to feel merciful and use my knockout pistol instead.

[lordoftheapes79]

I picked up a mutant slayer's gatling laser in Far Harbor the other day. No Big Guns perks but it was absolutely devastating.

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Originally posted by ghpstage:

Originally posted by Out Of Bubblegum:

Oh well. Too complicated. I will just stick to ballistic weapons for SM.

This is best in the overwhelming majority of circumstances.

But, but, but... the laser rifle says it does 72 damage and the combat riofle says it does 49 damage. It HAS! to be better.

Yea. I will give up the laser rifle. I can sell all the cells and buy more ammo for my combat rifle/shotgun. My two favorite guns in the game are the combat rifle and the assault rifle. With the combat shotgun for close up. And a 10mm for easy things like roaches.

Originally posted by SWEDr Brobotnik:

Personally I just hit them with the furious power fist

Nope. I never ever do melee. I just don't like it. I can't be doing fps if I am not doing fpS. It is not called fpm.

Originally posted by lordoftheapes79:

I picked up a mutant slayer's gatling laser in Far Harbor the other day. No Big Guns perks but it was absolutely devastating.

Agree, but i am a long way from getting one of those.

[bunny de fluff]

I thought it was common sense super mutant has higher ballistic resistance than energy resistance, if you don't trust me use console command to get the perk that can look at their hp and quicksave and use two different guns to see how quick they go down to different attacks.