Laser weapons vs ballistic vs robots?

[Out Of Bubblegum]

I know that laser weapons in this game are nerfed some because their damage is calculated wrong. So I ususlly avoid them. There are enough ballistic versions to do the game with. But I am about to start Automatron. Metal armor and metal robots are weak against laser weapons. So is the robot weakness more than the reduced damage? aka should I use laser weapons against the robots?
I am level 50 so I can make the fully upgraded versions of any weapon. I have no legendary weapons that stand out. I am on survival, and I don't use vats.

[Balthasar☆]

In my Experience it doesn't make much of a difference if using Energy or Ballistic damage type Weapons against Automatrons.

[Chaosium]

Robots tend to have less energy resistance, but if you have Rifleman + firearm, you pierce through some of their ballistic resistance, so all in all it doesn't really matter.

Use plasma :P

[ghpstage]

The goof lies in the DR calculations to begin with.

Multiply the displayed ER by the total damage multiplier (location ones dont count) acting on your weapon. This will give the 'true' ER value that you can use to see what the real weakness is at that time.

[Balthasar☆]

Or you could use http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Syringer_(Fallout_4) with Endangerol syringe which decreases Resistances of the Target by 25% ( 75% if you have Rifleman maxed as there seem to be a Bug with that Syringe in combination with Rifleman Rank 5 ) I don't even know if it works against Robots as i actually have used it rarely only on Carla when i'm bored for a few mins

[Solomon Hawk]

Maxed gauss rifle is the go to can-opener.
I've one shotted legendaries with it.
Nabbed a sweet "penetrating" gauss rifle off a super mutant.

[bunny de fluff]

all energy weapons and gauss rifle cannot be silenced and cannot benefit from silent attack modifiers, what more can i say

[Balthasar☆]

Originally posted by bunny de fluff:

all energy weapons and gauss rifle cannot be silenced and cannot benefit from silent attack modifiers, what more can i say

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Gauss_rifle_(Fallout_4) Scroll down to the Muzzle list and tell me what Muzzle's are available for the Gauss

[a Hippobottomus]

Originally posted by bunny de fluff:

all energy weapons and gauss rifle cannot be silenced and cannot benefit from silent attack modifiers, what more can i say

The gauss rifle has a suppressor modification.

[Out Of Bubblegum]

So is there some kind of 'exploit' from using a suppressor?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/1742228532896514793/

EDIT: I mean that there is some kind of unintended advantage from using a suppressor.

[Solomon Hawk]

Originally posted by Out Of Bubblegum:

So is there some kind of 'exploit' from using a suppressor?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/1742228532896514793/

I don't think it's an exploit as much as maybe a goof-up on the code because I've used silenced weapons to take down an enemy at range, but still somehow the other NPCs in the area suddenly know where I am and start shooting or charging at me in my direction. (This was before I perked up the sneak attribute).

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Originally posted by Solomon Hawk:

Originally posted by Out Of Bubblegum:

So is there some kind of 'exploit' from using a suppressor?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/1742228532896514793/

I don't think it's an exploit as much as maybe a goof-up on the code because I've used silenced weapons to take down an enemy at range, but still somehow the other NPCs in the area suddenly know where I am and start shooting or charging at me in my direction. (This was before I perked up the sneak attribute).

Hmmmm. Thats the exact opposite of what I was thinking. I have heard about what you described. I am thinking about that there is some 'unfair' advantage when using a suppressor.

[ghpstage]

Originally posted by Out Of Bubblegum:

Hmmmm. Thats the exact opposite of what I was thinking. I have heard about what you described. I am thinking about that there is some 'unfair' advantage when using a suppressor.

The closest thing to a problematic level of advantage that I know of, is suppressors giving you the ability to spam indefinite numbers of consecutive sneak attacks while you remain out of sight.
It is likely working as intended, so rather than being an exploit its more of an example of hilariously poor balance that may clear your bar for 'unfair'.

[Gamerfss86]

Originally posted by Solomon Hawk:

Maxed gauss rifle is the go to can-opener.
I've one shotted legendaries with it.
Nabbed a sweet "penetrating" gauss rifle off a super mutant.

omg i found a 2 shot legendary gauss rifle on a lvl 94 once

damage fully upgraded = 604

called the gauss rifle = MoJo

can almost one shot big tank type autobots from the dlc (chest shot) on hard settings. he will only have a little health left.

i miss that thing.

[danconnors]

I agree the gauss rifle is the way to go. If you are not high enough levl to gt hold of one, I would favor the highest power sniper rifle you can get, preferably with a suppressor. Enemy targets don't hear your weapons; they spot your gun flashes, but if you're firing from far enough away, and they are carrying .38's and shotguns, you can often shoot them all down before they come within their range.

[fitzifatz]

I found a combat-shotgun with +15 explosive damage. It just messes up anything armoured. I even managed to kill Swan without sidestepping. It is unbelievably overpowered, love it.