Nerd Rage worth it?

[Sgt.Random♿]

I want to have intelligence at 10 at the start anyway, and just wanted to ask if I should get this at the lower levels (like 8-9), also gonna be playing on Very Hard difficulty.

[kaffekoppen]

It's not very good at low levels on Very Hard. You'll die very quickly, and the added damage resistance won't do much to fix that.

It's a powerful perk with the right build that can manage to stay alive at low health, but I think you need to build up some gear and other survival perks to do so.

[Sgt.Random♿]

Originally posted by kaffekoppen:

It's not very good at low levels on Very Hard. You'll die very quickly, and the added damage resistance won't do much to fix that.

It's a powerful perk with the right build that can manage to stay alive at low health, but I think you need to build up some gear and other survival perks to do so.

Also I am doing a power armor build, just some added info, so on later levels it's good right? Since they won't kill me before the effect triggers, and I will get even more dmg and resistance?

[kaffekoppen]

It's good if you're beefy enough to survive, yeah, and it can also be combined with other "low health" effects like Unyielding armor pieces.

The resistance part of it is actually totally insignificant, especially for a power armor user. More damage is great.

[Sgt.Random♿]

Originally posted by kaffekoppen:

It's good if you're beefy enough to survive, yeah, and it can also be combined with other "low health" effects like Unyielding armor pieces.

The resistance part of it is actually totally insignificant, especially for a power armor user. More damage is great.

I mean, is the damage resistance really small when using power armor? Even if it is slower time and damage is great as you said.

[kaffekoppen]

It is insignificant. Consider this: the best power armor has a damage resistance of about 1200 when you get it and about 1800 fully upgraded. Now look at the numbers on Nerd Rage: 20, 30, 40. You won't be able to tell the difference at all.

Exactly the same reason the Toughness perk is terrible, by the way.

If you want a high intelligence perk early, Nuclear Physicist is pretty good for power armor. Fusion cores are scarce at first, and later in the game you deal increased radiation damage, so this perk is still worth it when you're swimming in cores.

[Sgt.Random♿]

Originally posted by kaffekoppen:

It is insignificant. Consider this: the best power armor has a damage resistance of about 1200 when you get it and about 1800 fully upgraded. Now look at the numbers on Nerd Rage: 20, 30, 40. You won't be able to tell the difference at all.

Exactly the same reason the Toughness perk is terrible, by the way.

If you want a high intelligence perk early, Nuclear Physicist is pretty good for power armor. Fusion cores are scarce at first, and later in the game you deal increased radiation damage, so this perk is still worth it when you're swimming in cores.

Yeah I know about all of the intelligence perks like nuclear physicist, but the perk is still worth it for the increased damage and slowed time right?

[ghpstage]

Slowed time is far more useful to help you survive than the small amount of additional DR, regardless of whether you wear power armour or not.
The damage bonus is sizable.

If you remain at or below 20% (which is easily done using radiation) the damage bonus will remain indefinitely (great for sniping) and the slow time effect will trigger whenever combat starts, even if you didn't know it had. Using it in this manner also works very well with other low HP/ high rads effects.

It is easily worth it if you are willing to go outside of traditional norms to leverage it, not so much otherwise.

[Sgt.Random♿]

Originally posted by ghpstage:

Slowed time is far more useful to help you survive than the small amount of additional DR, regardless of whether you wear power armour or not.
The damage bonus is sizable.

If you remain at or below 20% the damage bonus will remain indefinitely (great for sniping) and the slow time effect will trigger whenever combat starts, even if you didn't know it had. So yes, its
useful, though its usefulness varies wildly depending on how you use it and it leveraging it may take some getting use to.

Ok, thank you, I will see if I want to use it, I guess I will just put my science to 9 and then do some training to 10, the 3% exp boost won't really matter for the first 10 lvls anyways.

[Tesityr]

If I may pop in with my own experience with it, I really liked it for the 'auto-Jet' effect that kicks in, when I'm not paying attention to my Health... In a heavy fight, I'll totally notice the world slowing down as though I took a Jet - that is the Nerd Rage kicking in - and I'll have time to Stimpack/Chems/whatever to finish the fight and not die.

I didn't really notice the Damage Buff make a difference, but then, I didn't really use it or that (and didn't remain at Low Health,etc).

Since you can eventually get 'everything' (all Perks) by using every Point as you Level, you can get it no matter what, later on, if you wanted or can't decide right now, too.

GL with making your choice

[Nite69]

its not worth it no cause it only works if health drops below 20