Kill Dima and save Acadia (Spoilers)

[Discoroo]

Am i missing something here? because it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks I have to destroy all of Acadia and not save Kasumi in order to kill Dima. I feel like he deserves to die and Acadia should remain a safe haven for synths, but the game just won't let me have that ending. Am i missing something here or is this the way it has to be?

[Big Moustache]

you are missing something. You can convince dima to turn itself in.

[Discoroo]

Thanks for the info, I reloaded and popped some mentats and convinced him. Luckily I had done enough to convince the citizens of far harbor to kill dima and not burn acadia to the ground and save Kasume.

Had been fiddling around with this for hours, haha. Finally got the ending I wanted, pretty satisfied with this dlc all in all, really makes you consider things and feels like your choices matter.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Fragoos:

you are missing something. You can convince dima to turn itself in.

Yes, it's possible to convince DiMA to turn himself in, but stop Allen from leading a mob to destroy Acadia. The more quests you've completed with the Harbourmen, the more people agree with you and speak in favour of sparing Acadia.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Discoroo:

Thanks for the info, I reloaded and popped some mentats and convinced him. Luckily I had done enough to convince the citizens of far harbor to kill dima and not burn acadia to the ground and save Kasume.

Had been fiddling around with this for hours, haha. Finally got the ending I wanted, pretty satisfied with this dlc all in all, really makes you consider things and feels like your choices matter.

I was disappointed that there wasn't an option to get rid of Allen without destroying the rest of the Harbourmen.

He's willing to blame and murder people (including the entirety of Acadia), but never truly gets called to account for that.

[HunterOfPinkBunnyWabbits]

In Lore wise Acadia and Nucleus will saved that way. Far Harbor and other human settements will fail over time. DiMA made fog conseders and there is no one to make new spare parts those.....

[Discoroo]

I'm also a bit disappointed there is no way to make Allen answer for his bigotry, though he does get put in his place a bit there at the end, it doesn't really make up for everything he has done. Edit:@DouglasGrave

Edit 2: @Hunter I would think that Faraday and others at Acadia would have the ability to make fog condensers and the parts for them at this point. So realistically, if they wanted to keep the peace, they would continue working together, especially now that Avery knows she's a synth (I don't know if she does in every ending, but I told her). So basically, Far Harbor provides a jumping off point for any runaway synths making their way to Acadia and Acadia helps keep the fog at bay for Far Harbor, a win win.

[Discoroo]

Side note, I wish there had been a way to warn certain people in the Nucleus to run or abandon the Chlildren of Atom before nuking the place. I realize there were other options, but I felt like they were a danger to everyone at the time, including themselves, not only on the island, but in the Commonwealth. I don't feel great about the decision to nuke them, but I also feel like it was the best decision in the long run when you take into account their general state of mind.

[Big Moustache]

Allen is not bad per sé. I can really get his pov. Also, postapocalyptyc education sucks. Just look at what baseball has become. The Donald would call Allen a true patriot, just saying.

Why bother with fog condensers, the island is a death trap? They are all captains with their own ships, but they choose to all cram themselves into a tiny safespot instead. Only to be raided by fog creatures non stop. Like i said, education sucks after the bombs. Old longfellow said the fog can clear for years and than suddenly return overnight. Those poor trappers did not choose their hillbilly fates. I'd sell that island to the church of Atom. Let them go as crazy as they want on their own secluded lands.

Far Harbour dlc was all about a confused girl, not knowing what she was. If this dlc lacks anything, it would be a safe way to determine who is a synth. It's only the whole plot of the dlc that is missing... Even the player char has no memories before the day of the bombs, and the main story is about your DNA being used to create artificial humans.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Fragoos:

Far Harbour dlc was all about a confused girl, not knowing what she was. If this dlc lacks anything, it would be a safe way to determine who is a synth. It's only the whole plot of the dlc that is missing... Even the player char has no memories before the day of the bombs, and the main story is about your DNA being used to create artificial humans.

That would miss a lot of the point, since a large part of the issue with synths is not being able to tell them apart. It's one of those great science-fiction elements because, instead of having an easy way to separate people, like "the guy with mechanical guts is a robot" or "the Martians have red skin", it forces you to examine the question of what makes a human being a person. Without a simple form of discrimation, what separates "us" from "them"? The inability to easily identify synths also enables some of the paranoia of infiltration and replacement that drives synth-related fear within the game.

Main storywise, it's your son's DNA that is studied to create synths, not your own, and even then, each synth ends up with its own unique DNA, as we find out in the Brotherhood of Steel's questline.

[Lichdemon]

At the very least, we should be allowed the option to defend Acadia if ♥♥♥♥ hits the fan. All the Far Harbor citizens that attack Acadia - even the nameless, background NPCs - are essential, which is genuinely upsetting. You're shoehorned in to a few endings, and given the illusion of choice.