Getting Special Stat Legitimately to 12 Impossible Now?

[Roguefire]

I read so many places that you could legitimately get a base stat to 12 by getting a stat to 10, then using an addiction to lower the stat and then using the "You're Special" book and then the bobble head. However the "You're Special" book is not giving me the option to raise the stat once it is at 10 even when for example addiction lowers my Agility down to 8 or and even 7. Then I tried to illegitimately do it spawning multiple of the same bobble head and I still can not get anything over 11. Luckily it can be done if you manually change the variable in console.

I'm wondering if this was changed and why? I spent over 100 hours in the game specifically not using the "You're Special" book or any bobble heads so I could do this legitimately. I am a little annoyed that I waited for nothing, and I'm debating using the console commands to manually raise a stat to 12.

Should I raise it to 12 or settle for 11? I know it seems silly and will not change much, but to me I'm a bit of an OCD completionist. On one hand it bothers me to peel back the curtain and infect my clean first play through with console commands. On the other hand it equally bothers me that I planned to do something that you could do at base game, and now I am unable to legitimately do that.

[kaffekoppen]

I'm not sure why it isn't working for you. I've done this recently, but in my case it was with strength, and I used Day Tripper to lower it.

Maybe it has something to do with how you lower it? Maybe addiction doesn't count? I don't know because I've only ever done it with strength.

[Roguefire]

I've only tried it with agility. I will try it with strength next time I'm in game.

[kaffekoppen]

Try it without using addictions, that's probably what makes the difference.

Strength is a good choice anyway IMO, especially if you plan to dabble in melee (and why wouldn't you, it's the most powerful weapon type at higher levels).

[Roguefire]

Yeah, you are right. It doesn't work when addiction is causing the negative effects. I guess I'll work on Strength... I'm only at level 1 Strength right now though lol...

[DouglasGrave]

Yeah, addictions don't work for it, but the immediate effect of the drug does; I'm fairly familiar with mucking about with the You're SPECIAL! book.

Strength, Perception, Charisma, and Intelligence can all be appropriately penalized by various drugs and alcohol, and Luck can take a -1 hit from wearing Tattered Rags (which incorrectly report it as a +1 when you look at the item itself). Perception is from a very rare item found in only one location, though, unless you've got the Nuka World DLC to make another option available (Nuka Cola Dark).

If you play in survival mode, you can appropriately penalize any score for use with the book by being suitably encumbered, hungry, tired, or thirsty.

[Roguefire]

Roger that! You're the man! and SPECIAL!