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how to get def ui to work
hello and am currently wondering how to get def ui to work (yes i am aware to the fact that there are instructions on the nexus page) but i am newish to modding and have never come across to something like this. its almost rare and beautiful in the screenshots but alsa monstrous and hideas and yet i cant look away with out saying i want that first and the instructions from what i have read are a hard to understand for my paygrade of mod installing understandment. so please someone who has this mod please help me with this i will make a few things known though so try not to be dissuaded: i only manually install mods, i have no idea how to work NMM and never used wrye bash or MO before so dont even suggest them, and learn best by reading instructions and not listening to someone on youtube who is flying 1000 miles a minute while my understandment is going at a leisure stroll in the park by the ducky pond with it elderly mother sp please bear with me thank you in advance
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pike Feb 14, 2018 @ 2:34pm 
i suggest reading the mods install instructions , same as reading some second hand instructions here . better in fact .
watch a video on how to do it if your too lazy to read or learn .
better yet dont install it
Chef Feb 14, 2018 @ 4:31pm 
Silent, are you looking for the HUD part or the invetory sorting component? Or both?
inventory more specifically
I'm going to be "that guy" (please forgive me man) honestly, learn how to use a mod manager...

It not only makes the installation very easy, but it also handles EVERYTHING for you without needing to maticulously read the manual install instructions for every single mod and every single optional setting. Additionally, not every mod will have manual installation info (like true storms).

There are plenty of good installtion tuts like this one from "Gopher". he has quite a few baby step videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVfr9pWO6xE&ab_channel=Gopher

Manual installtions are just... not good. Please don't take this as a "hostile post", I've learned from experience manual installtions are horrible. Havea great day man :D let me know what you think, mod managers are worth the effort to learn.

EDIT: Also worth noting that with NMM, all you do is hit the "NMM" button on the Nexus and find the file in NMM under the "mods" tab, simply right click > "install and activate". You will get some prompts for additional options, then it will install and activate the mod for you.
Last edited by 𝓝𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓸𝓫𝓸𝓲; Feb 14, 2018 @ 9:10pm
bLaCkShAd0w Feb 14, 2018 @ 9:17pm 
Originally posted by 𝓝𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓸𝓫𝓸𝓲:
It not only makes the installation very easy, but it also handles EVERYTHING for you

Except for the mods they dont install / uninstall correctly. Mod managers are the reason these forums are flooded "Mah game broke bethesda sucks" threads. If more people actually understood what the managers actually do and how files are structured for these games it would be alot easier to fix things. Theres something to be said about installing manually. The only downside is disabling mods, They do it in one click, I cut and paste 3 folders and my entire game is vanilla again. If you keep both installs on the same drive I can revert to vanilla in less than 30 seconds. I know every file ive installed myself, I know where to find something If need be. I know how to solve conflicts. Been doing it manually for every beth game since oblivion in 2006. Even things like huge fomod structures take only a few minutes to install, I actually learned to read fomod scripts just so I could install those manually too. (Sometimes you dont know whats needed and whats optional)

People use managers because they don't want to learn, Not because its the better way.

https://youtu.be/HZpIQ6P38xE
Last edited by bLaCkShAd0w; Feb 14, 2018 @ 9:28pm
Originally posted by bLaCkShAd0w:

Except for the mods they dont install / uninstall correctly. Mod managers are the reason these forums are flooded "Mah game broke bethesda sucks" threads. If more people actually understood what the managers actually do and how files are structured for these games it would be alot easier to fix things. Theres something to be said about installing manually. The only downside is disabling mods, They do it in one click, I cut and paste 3 folders and my entire game is vanilla again. If you keep both installs on the same drive I can revert to vanilla in less than 30 seconds. I know every file ive installed myself, I know where to find something If need be. I know how to solve conflicts. Been doing it manually for every beth game since oblivion in 2006. Even things like huge fomod structures take only a few minutes to install, I actually learned to read fomod scripts just so I could install those manually too. (Sometimes you dont know whats needed and whats optional)

People use managers because they don't want to learn, Not because its the better way.

https://youtu.be/HZpIQ6P38xE

Lots of odd statements there... I think if those people who can't even use a mod manager properly tried manually installing their mods they would have more of an issue. Not really sure what the last statement means either, that's a really bold statement right there... Also, what mods don't install properly? Really curious as i've never come across any that weren't user error from optional settings (DERP :bandit:).
bLaCkShAd0w Feb 14, 2018 @ 10:51pm 
Originally posted by 𝓝𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓸𝓫𝓸𝓲:
Originally posted by bLaCkShAd0w:

Except for the mods they dont install / uninstall correctly. Mod managers are the reason these forums are flooded "Mah game broke bethesda sucks" threads. If more people actually understood what the managers actually do and how files are structured for these games it would be alot easier to fix things. Theres something to be said about installing manually. The only downside is disabling mods, They do it in one click, I cut and paste 3 folders and my entire game is vanilla again. If you keep both installs on the same drive I can revert to vanilla in less than 30 seconds. I know every file ive installed myself, I know where to find something If need be. I know how to solve conflicts. Been doing it manually for every beth game since oblivion in 2006. Even things like huge fomod structures take only a few minutes to install, I actually learned to read fomod scripts just so I could install those manually too. (Sometimes you dont know whats needed and whats optional)

People use managers because they don't want to learn, Not because its the better way.

https://youtu.be/HZpIQ6P38xE

Lots of odd statements there... I think if those people who can't even use a mod manager properly tried manually installing their mods they would have more of an issue. Not really sure what the last statement means either, that's a really bold statement right there... Also, what mods don't install properly? Really curious as i've never come across any that weren't user error from optional settings (DERP :bandit:).

Bold? Maybe, Sure there are people who use it for convienence. Sure there are people who actually know how to mod manually and use managers anyways. But i would say the majority uses it because they only have to hit the green checkmark.

It just seems like a daily occurance people posting here about broken games. The process hasnt changed much since oblivion. Drop it in the data folder and enable the plugin in the text file. Its quite literally the same just the plugins.txt has moved locations.

I literally just finished helping a friend who botched his directories restore his game. Im not positive, But pretty sure it was from loose files left behind by NMM. Things like reshade and ENB have issues with nmm. Reshade now has its own installer, Sometimes you have to rename the enb files to get them to work. Things outside of the data folder seem to have the most issues. Sometimes im not convinced they remove the files peroperly. I just dont see the benefit of using a manager.

As for the people who don't know what there doing, Its the managers and their glorified checkboxes that has rendered their game broken because they make it too easy to get into trouble. Now they have no idea how to fix it because they didnt install it themselves.(like my friend who had loose files lefover and no .rar archive to find the files because he deleted it after installing.) The minute the software fails them they are hooped. When I started I believe my first mod was some cool armor someone made. I kept seeing it around and eventually it drove me crazy enough that I learned how to install it. Did it work the first time? NO. Did it work the second time? Dont think so. Did I have to reinstall the game? More than once. But it didnt take long to learn the structures. Its almost a game in itself just modding. Rewarding on the best of days.

I dont like the virtualization some managers use, I find it utterly pointless to take something so simple and have files spread all over the place. The mods belong in the data folder, Not my my root c drive. I keep full directory backups anyways. We all should know by now the vast majority of mods are unsafe to remove mid game anyways. So whats the benefit of the virtualization? More things to go wrong? More layers of confusion. Maybe to have seperate mod profiles for different save games, But that can be accomplished other ways.

Call me oldschool, But when my game breaks, you won't see me on here asking for help.
Flippy Feb 14, 2018 @ 11:04pm 
Last edited by Flippy; Feb 14, 2018 @ 11:06pm
bLaCkShAd0w Feb 14, 2018 @ 11:20pm 
Originally posted by Flippy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZpIQ6P38xE

His ini edit is outdated if anyone uses that video you should have nothing after this line:

sResourceDataDirsFinal=
Chef Feb 15, 2018 @ 1:34am 
This thread is way off topic for helping silent.

Silent, I'll take a look at what you need to do after I get to work if someone else hasn't helped you yet.
Flippy Feb 15, 2018 @ 1:46am 
Well that screen i put is using my full UI which is a DEF UI mod version. Just a little health bar bottom left.

This mod was actually crashing the game for a while until i updated it, a long time ago.

Anyway, modding is amazing but a player needs to know the basics really. Installing mods manually is a good start to getting to know the basics.... wich is why i expect many push mod managers.

Fallout 4 is a 10/10 game if modded to taste.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1302042023

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1302046936
Last edited by Flippy; Feb 15, 2018 @ 2:04am
Black Album Feb 15, 2018 @ 1:53am 
subscribed ...
thank you chef and flippy for your assistence and wilingness to help i look forward to reading after i wake up today (like 440 am near me) and like i said NMM and mod organizers are still brand new to me so if your recommend them please send a link with some helpful info or something to help things go along thank you in advance
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