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HammerHand Feb 8, 2018 @ 4:39pm
Things NOT to scrap?
Hello - i'm pretty new to Fallout4.

Should I keep these things or scrap them?


Lightbulbs
Makeshift Battery


Any other items to keep and not scrap?
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DouglasGrave Apr 20, 2021 @ 7:30pm 
Originally posted by wtiger27:
Originally posted by DouglasGrave:
If he scrapped or stored them, was he doing that by dropping them on the ground?

If so, that would alter the build limit in the same way it does with things like guns. But it doesn't mean they were occupying any build space while they were stored, since they don't count against the build limit when dropped from inventory or storage into the 3D world.

He would look at the settlement size limit bar and then remove the items from the workbench and then drop them on the ground, scrap them. After he scrapped the items ( not before ) the size limit would decrease some.
Yes, that sounds like what I'd thought. But as noted, it doesn't mean they genuinely took up any space in terms of how much work your system has to do to display things.

If you do it by storing things rather than scrapping them, you can pull exactly the same item back out, drop it again, and store it again to reduce the current build level even further. It's just a way to trick the game into allowing you to build more than normal.
Last edited by DouglasGrave; Apr 20, 2021 @ 7:31pm
wtiger27 Apr 21, 2021 @ 6:04am 
But if the settlememt size bar listed before you removed those 50 Military Grade Circuit Boards and then decreases after you have scrapped them, it is logical them being stored in the workshop, rather than the components from them is affecting the settlement size.
Last edited by wtiger27; Apr 21, 2021 @ 6:07am
DouglasGrave Apr 21, 2021 @ 8:09am 
Originally posted by wtiger27:
But if the settlememt size bar listed before you removed those 50 Military Grade Circuit Boards and then decreases after you have scrapped them, it is logical them being stored in the workshop, rather than the components from them is affecting the settlement size.
Yes storing them affects it, but as a simple addition or subtraction from the build limit as a static value, not as an accurate calculation of objects in the settlement zone. We can tell that because we get multiple changes from storing a single item multiple time, but not multiple changes from dropping it multiple times.

For example, let's imagine the build limit had a total of 1,000 points, with 200 of them already used on structures (leaving 800 free), and we have a pipe gun worth 10 points When we drop the gun, the remaining total should change to 790 points. But it doesn't; it stays at 800. Then when we store the gun, the total changes to 810. Then we drop and store the gun another three times, and the total becomes 840 points.

That tells us the build limit being reported isn't an accurate calculation based on items in the settlement, but a base value that just gets modified up and down when we build a settlement structure or use the settlement system (not crafting workbenches) to store or scrap.
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Date Posted: Feb 8, 2018 @ 4:39pm
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