Problem "The Lost Patrol" Quest (Not the usual)

[Kammi]

I finished the quest quite early in game and convinced Brandis to rejoin the Brotherhood (before the Prydwen). After the Prydwen arrived, Brandis was there but he didn´t gave me his unique Laser as a reward. I also missed to get the unique Armor from Kells (because he wasn´t there when i finished). Now as I am a completionist it bothers me to death. Didn´t find any solution. Even tried to reset the quest through console commands but it just didn´t work. (actually no consolecommand regarding this quest seems to have any influence). please help

[Stardustfire]

Brandis never gave me a Laser, only Dance ever hand out his laser after the run with him in the research facility at start. when u ignore that quests until the prydwen arives i think dance hops over that quest, but not sure, never ignored them that long in the police station.

[Kammi]

Hey Stardustfire: Danses Laser is a different one you get completing a different quest (Its called "Rightous Authority"). The one you get from Brandis (under special circumstances) is calles "Survivors Special"

[Doombringer]

Brandis doesn't give his laser if he returns to the Prydwyn.
You can amod the legendary mod on a laser, rename it, and pretend he gave it to you though.
(drop a laser, grab and hold it (hold down E), bring up console, GetPlayerGrabbedRef, (this will give you the lasers RefID), RefId.amod 001ec036)
Normally Bloodied only spawns on melee weapons, so you won't get this from random drops.
(lasers are junk weapons though)

The armor is just a normal legendary with a garbage ability, so I wouldn't worry to much about that.

EDIT: if you player.additem 00225abc it will give you the Suvivor's Special (correct name, properly randomized parts), but WITHOUT the legendary mod. You can use the above steps to apply the Bloodied mod to it though.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Stardustfire:

Brandis never gave me a Laser, only Dance ever hand out his laser after the run with him in the research facility at start.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Survivor%27s_Special

Next time you claim a weapon does not exist do some research braindead. Took me all of 9 seconds to look up Brandis on the wiki.

Originally posted by Doombringer:

Brandis doesn't give his laser if he returns to the Prydwyn.

Originally posted by Fallout4wiki:

If the Sole Survivor is a member of the Brotherhood of Steel they can attempt to convince Brandis to return to the order through three conversation checks ranging from easy to hard difficulty. If successful, Brandis will later meet them aboard the Prydwen where he will reward them with the Survivor's Special.

At least that is what the wiki claims.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Kammi:

Even tried to reset the quest through console commands but it just didn´t work. (actually no consolecommand regarding this quest seems to have any influence). please help

Restting a completed quest is buggy business. Something about some scripts only run once. Also keep in mind that you would most likely have to set stages to do them a second time around. You also have to not be in that area when using set stage commands, the cells have to reload.

[Kammi]

Doombringer: The wiki says that if you convince him through 3 checks to rejoin, he will reward you later on the prydwen (thats what i did, but no reward on the prydwen) wiki also says its a known bug that he wont reward if you complete the quest before the arriving of the prydwen. thats why i want to reset the whole quest, but it doesn´t work. and... yeah i know i could loot a legendary and rename, but... it... just feels... wrong.

source: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/The_Lost_Patrol

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Kammi:

wiki also says its a known bug that he wont reward if you complete the quest before the arriving of the prydwen.

So basically he is saying since the Prydwen is here I will give this smuck this crappy old gun and go get a new one on the Prydwen?

[Doombringer]

I edited my first post with how to get the correct base item if you want to console it in.

I did it exactly how the wiki said to do it and he did not give me the gun, so I'm speaking from personal experience...

As a note, all the pre-set legendary items have database entries, but do not come with legendary mods if you add them. (That is why all those items entry names include _DoNotPlaceDirectly_ in them, the legendary mods are applied by a script/quest)

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Doombringer:

I did it exactly how the wiki said to do it and ne did not give me the gun, so I'm speaking from personal experience...

I know what happened! Emogene stole your gun and ran away with it!

[Kammi]

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Originally posted by Kammi:

Even tried to reset the quest through console commands but it just didn´t work. (actually no consolecommand regarding this quest seems to have any influence). please help

Restting a completed quest is buggy business. Something about some scripts only run once. Also keep in mind that you would most likely have to set stages to do them a second time around. You also have to not be in that area when using set stage commands, the cells have to reload.

hey Bored Peon: Yeah I read the warnings and for sure i will try out if it bugs my save. but none of the console commands (reset, setstage etc.) has an effect on the quest. tried both (and all stages). i even created en esp to make the quest repeatable (because as you said some quests are marked to be done one time only)

[Kammi]

Originally posted by Doombringer:

I edited my first post with how to get the correct base item if you want to console it in.

I did it exactly how the wiki said to do it and he did not give me the gun, so I'm speaking from personal experience...

thanks i will consider it as a last solution :-)

[Bored Peon]

Is there a hidden stage to the quest you could do to have him reward you the gun on the Prydwen? Like use the last setstage result then zone into the prydwen?

[Doombringer]

I can check, hold on. (I wish creation kit didn't take a year to load though...)

EDIT: quest stage 130 of BoSM01 (The Lost Patrol)
This quest stage unload Brandis, then a different actor is used post quest (on the Prydwyn...)

[Kammi]

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Is there a hidden stage to the quest you could do to have him reward you the gun on the Prydwen? Like use the last setstage result then zone into the prydwen?

ehm i dont know. i only know the stages listed in the wiki. i tried them all. no effect. actually i wasn´t right in a previous post. the command "completequest" has an effect. but only gaining XP. no reward, no log entry or speech option from kells or brandis. just nothing.

[Bored Peon]

In all honesty though, there is no rhyme or reason to the stability of quests.

I have done a crapload of new games and I swear every game is almost night and day as to what happens with some quests.

For example this current game I could not get the quest to paint the wall from Abbott on my first trip to Diamond City, I assume interference from mayor's speech and the synth shooting.) Then on my second it actually popped. Then he refused to talk to me. Of course later I found out I had a Junkie Note I never read for Hardware Town. I was able to just go grab the paint THEN the quest with Abbott started.

I started the Automatron at around 30, and I sitll have not done a sucessful Mechanist Lair and I am 80 now. Yet I have not had a single Automatron attack on a settlement (robots or Rust Devils.) While in previous games it was like every day or other day.