Opinion: Creation Club is great

[bearsboi]

official, bug free content, co-developed with some of the best community mod developers. not only is all the content optional but it also gives these mod guys an awesome opportunity to get some developing experience in the working world. as long as they don't start shutting down third party modding entirely, I'd gladly welcome creation club content in future games as well

[Bankai9212]

Well it could be good, if they offered stuff that you couldn't already get on the nexus which is usually better if not on par with what CC has.

[Vyrtualis]

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You're both wrong.

There's nothing in the CC for FO4 that adds any real content to the game. No new areas, no new quests, no new anything that adds to the game like a real DLC. Just cosmetics. Who the ♥♥♥♥ is paying for cosmetics in a single player game?

The only content worth paying for is content that adds to the game in a meaningful way. Which there isn't anything on there like that.

It's true what they say. A fool and his money are soon parted.

No we're not, what you're doing is placing your own personal obervation and attempting to use it as fact and that's not how that works.
Content by definition means assets, means things you can use in-game, and by "your" definition, apparently, would be new items and nothing that's cosmetic..well guess what, the only cosmetics are the power armor paint..which leads me to believe that you haven't in fact looked at the store at all or you just don't know what content is to begin with.

Case in point: there aren't any new areas because community authors haven't made any yet, "new areas" is an opinion piece and category of content, some of the content like the tunnel snake creation actually has a quest, and creation club isn't really dlc by steam-standard it's just a "creation" by community authors.

Good question, it's too bad there aren't more cosmetics on the creation club...because there's hardly any of it at all besides the before mentioned power armor paint.

It's true what they say, look before you walk, you're the definition by what that stands and should definitely look before doing anything..

Cosmetics aren't quests, zones, areas, etc. That is obvious, objective fact. Bethesda promised substantial content like that, but all I see is cosmetics. That is also objective fact. You can literally find this stuff out for yourself if you look at old press briefings on the CC launch.

Where you get that this is just "my opinion", I don't know. I swear, the people on the net are getting more and more ignorant.

[MortVent]

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No we're not, what you're doing is placing your own personal obervation and attempting to use it as fact and that's not how that works.
Content by definition means assets, means things you can use in-game, and by "your" definition, apparently, would be new items and nothing that's cosmetic..well guess what, the only cosmetics are the power armor paint..which leads me to believe that you haven't in fact looked at the store at all or you just don't know what content is to begin with.

Case in point: there aren't any new areas because community authors haven't made any yet, "new areas" is an opinion piece and category of content, some of the content like the tunnel snake creation actually has a quest, and creation club isn't really dlc by steam-standard it's just a "creation" by community authors.

Good question, it's too bad there aren't more cosmetics on the creation club...because there's hardly any of it at all besides the before mentioned power armor paint.

It's true what they say, look before you walk, you're the definition by what that stands and should definitely look before doing anything..

Cosmetics aren't quests, zones, areas, etc. That is obvious, objective fact. Bethesda promised substantial content like that, but all I see is cosmetics. That is also objective fact. You can literally find this stuff out for yourself if you look at old press briefings on the CC launch.

Where you get that this is just "my opinion", I don't know. I swear, the people on the net are getting more and more ignorant.

a couple simple examples for fallout 4 alone..
Tunnel snakes creation = new area, new items, etc
Slocum Joes = new workshop items, new consumables, etc
Arcade pack = new workshop items, etc

So again you are proving your ignorance for all to see about there not being more than cosmetics, and people are laughing at you for it.

[GoreTiger]

I'm still waiting on Mort to post his Evidence that Creation Club is an Absolute success for Bethesda like he claimed, On top of a few more blatent lies he's failed to back up.

[MortVent]

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I'm still waiting on Mort to post his Evidence that Creation Club is an Absolute success for Bethesda like he claimed, On top of a few more blatent lies he's failed to back up.

Silly Kray, facts elude you when they are given to you. Namely the best seller list on steam shows that the credits are selling better than most games... which wouldn't happen if they were not being constantly purchased to buy the stuff on the market.

And that is just the PC side, that doesn't include the consoles.

Then there is the facts that Bethsada is still spending money to hire people and publish new content on a steady basis. Which is not something a company would do in a failed venture.

Simple facts and analysis, but feel free to prove your statements that I'm wrong and it's a total failure. We'll wait for your usual emoji and rage filled screams of impotent trolling of a game that made you angry.

[HellSlayer]

Anyone who spends money in creation club deserves to be banned from gaming community forever.

Why? because if you so damn throw money for paid mods for stupid billion dollar company, you have to pay up for free mods your fellow gamers worked on. After that your conscious can be free from guilt of paying your puny dollars that are meanindless for such big company.

Anyone will appreciate much more of your damn money than the bethesda!

[LAZERFACE]

I have never used CC i would not and do not use it even if it was free. I also have never used a mod, I got the game and all the dlc, I have 4600hrs. I run FO4 my way.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=766823036

[Kalsu]

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I'm still waiting on Mort to post his Evidence that Creation Club is an Absolute success for Bethesda like he claimed, On top of a few more blatent lies he's failed to back up.

Silly Kray, facts elude you when they are given to you. Namely the best seller list on steam shows that the credits are selling better than most games... which wouldn't happen if they were not being constantly purchased to buy the stuff on the market.

And that is just the PC side, that doesn't include the consoles.

Then there is the facts that Bethsada is still spending money to hire people and publish new content on a steady basis. Which is not something a company would do in a failed venture.

Simple facts and analysis, but feel free to prove your statements that I'm wrong and it's a total failure. We'll wait for your usual emoji and rage filled screams of impotent trolling of a game that made you angry.

Still waiting on the evidences....

[MortVent]

Първоначално публикувано от Kalsu:

Първоначално публикувано от MortVent:

Silly Kray, facts elude you when they are given to you. Namely the best seller list on steam shows that the credits are selling better than most games... which wouldn't happen if they were not being constantly purchased to buy the stuff on the market.

And that is just the PC side, that doesn't include the consoles.

Then there is the facts that Bethsada is still spending money to hire people and publish new content on a steady basis. Which is not something a company would do in a failed venture.

Simple facts and analysis, but feel free to prove your statements that I'm wrong and it's a total failure. We'll wait for your usual emoji and rage filled screams of impotent trolling of a game that made you angry.

Still waiting on the evidences....

Waiting for evidence for Kray's lies? Don't expect them anytime soon or ever

[GoreTiger]

Първоначално публикувано от MortVent:

Първоначално публикувано от KrayToast:

I'm still waiting on Mort to post his Evidence that Creation Club is an Absolute success for Bethesda like he claimed, On top of a few more blatent lies he's failed to back up.

Silly Kray, facts elude you when they are given to you. Namely the best seller list on steam shows that the credits are selling better than most games... which wouldn't happen if they were not being constantly purchased to buy the stuff on the market.

And that is just the PC side, that doesn't include the consoles.

Then there is the facts that Bethsada is still spending money to hire people and publish new content on a steady basis. Which is not something a company would do in a failed venture.

Simple facts and analysis, but feel free to prove your statements that I'm wrong and it's a total failure. We'll wait for your usual emoji and rage filled screams of impotent trolling of a game that made you angry.

So, Main game sales that mostly represent before Creation Club was even released Is proof that Creation Club is an absolute success for Bethesda?
I know you're terrible at Buisness tactics Mort but thats some Grade A level of Stupidity that I didn't think even you would reach.
But basically what You're saying is You have no actual proof for you claim, And instead are trying to use something Completely irrelevant to back up your baseless claim.

What you've been doing with ALL your claims more or less, At least You're consistant.

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Първоначално публикувано от MortVent:

Silly Kray, facts elude you when they are given to you. Namely the best seller list on steam shows that the credits are selling better than most games... which wouldn't happen if they were not being constantly purchased to buy the stuff on the market.

And that is just the PC side, that doesn't include the consoles.

Then there is the facts that Bethsada is still spending money to hire people and publish new content on a steady basis. Which is not something a company would do in a failed venture.

Simple facts and analysis, but feel free to prove your statements that I'm wrong and it's a total failure. We'll wait for your usual emoji and rage filled screams of impotent trolling of a game that made you angry.

Still waiting on the evidences....

He doesn't have any evidence. He made 2 blatent lies in another thread about me in another thread, I challenged him to back them up, And then he pulled this usual tactic of Backtracking or deflecting. It's his signature Reaction. Just sit back and Laugh as he backs himself into a corner.

[MortVent]

Silly Kray, same old broken record.

Do the research.

Creation club credits = money spent to buy the content in the creation club.
Credits listed in best sellers list on steam = selling as well as if not better than the game bellow them (which last time I checked was 10000 units a day... before steam spy was disabled by the security and privacy changes ) so that was easily 80,000 a month in income (considering all the values you can buy). Multiply that by 30 days for simplicity (just for you) and that is about a 240,000 sales of the creation club credits per month at the minimum. And it's been around for how many months now? And that was only on steam. So what does that say about failure child.

So go ahead and scream failure and lies all you want.. they are doing just fine raking in the money. While you rage against the tide rolling over your insignificant speck of resistance.

Plus you really should read what you dismiss and understand it before making a fool of yourself.. but that would require you to be smart enough to do that.

So prove that it's a failure when they are making money hand over fist with the creation club, just like every other such marketplace out there.

[GoreTiger]

Първоначално публикувано от MortVent:

Silly Kray, same old broken record.

Do the research.

Creation club credits = money spent to buy the content in the creation club.
Credits listed in best sellers list on steam = selling as well as if not better than the game bellow them (which last time I checked was 10000 units a day... before steam spy was disabled by the security and privacy changes ) so that was easily 80,000 a month in income (considering all the values you can buy). Multiply that by 30 days for simplicity (just for you) and that is about a 240,000 sales of the creation club credits per month at the minimum. And it's been around for how many months now? And that was only on steam. So what does that say about failure child.

So go ahead and scream failure and lies all you want.. they are doing just fine raking in the money. While you rage against the tide rolling over your insignificant speck of resistance.

Plus you really should read what you dismiss and understand it before making a fool of yourself.. but that would require you to be smart enough to do that.

So prove that it's a failure when they are making money hand over fist with the creation club, just like every other such marketplace out there.

So, I know you're typically nothing but a Liar, But I figured I'd humor you by looking at the best seller list on steam


Right now, Fallout 4:goty edition sits at the very bottom of the second page, With Ironicly Witcher 3 sitting in the middle of the third page. Not bad for a game you like to blindly trash.

But anyways, I don't see anything relating to the specific sales or success numbers of Creation Club.

So instead of spewing your usual lies and dribble, Why don't you just link us to the EXACT stats that show Creation club is the huge success you claim?


Or are you just going to pull your usual deflection crap, Like you do all the other times you're forced to back up your claims?

[MortVent]

Първоначално публикувано от KrayToast:

Първоначално публикувано от MortVent:

Silly Kray, same old broken record.

Do the research.

Creation club credits = money spent to buy the content in the creation club.
Credits listed in best sellers list on steam = selling as well as if not better than the game bellow them (which last time I checked was 10000 units a day... before steam spy was disabled by the security and privacy changes ) so that was easily 80,000 a month in income (considering all the values you can buy). Multiply that by 30 days for simplicity (just for you) and that is about a 240,000 sales of the creation club credits per month at the minimum. And it's been around for how many months now? And that was only on steam. So what does that say about failure child.

So go ahead and scream failure and lies all you want.. they are doing just fine raking in the money. While you rage against the tide rolling over your insignificant speck of resistance.

Plus you really should read what you dismiss and understand it before making a fool of yourself.. but that would require you to be smart enough to do that.

So prove that it's a failure when they are making money hand over fist with the creation club, just like every other such marketplace out there.

So, I know you're typically nothing but a Liar, But I figured I'd humor you by looking at the best seller list on steam


Right now, Fallout 4:goty edition sits at the very bottom of the second page, With Ironicly Witcher 3 sitting in the middle of the third page. Not bad for a game you like to blindly trash.

But anyways, I don't see anything relating to the specific sales or success numbers of Creation Club.

So instead of spewing your usual lies and dribble, Why don't you just link us to the EXACT stats that show Creation club is the huge success you claim?


Or are you just going to pull your usual deflection crap, Like you do all the other times you're forced to back up your claims?

silly Kray keep looking the data is there, and you even were told where and how to find it. Others did the math too in past threads.

If you were worth the effort I'd go dig them up, but as usual you can't fathom facts

[GoreTiger]

Първоначално публикувано от MortVent:

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So, I know you're typically nothing but a Liar, But I figured I'd humor you by looking at the best seller list on steam


Right now, Fallout 4:goty edition sits at the very bottom of the second page, With Ironicly Witcher 3 sitting in the middle of the third page. Not bad for a game you like to blindly trash.

But anyways, I don't see anything relating to the specific sales or success numbers of Creation Club.

So instead of spewing your usual lies and dribble, Why don't you just link us to the EXACT stats that show Creation club is the huge success you claim?


Or are you just going to pull your usual deflection crap, Like you do all the other times you're forced to back up your claims?

silly Kray keep looking the data is there, and you even were told where and how to find it. Others did the math too in past threads.

If you were worth the effort I'd go dig them up, but as usual you can't fathom facts

"I made a Bogus claim that I knew was a Lie and couldn't back up, So I'm gonna try and trick you into looking up the Evidence for My lie instead of me actually proving anything myself"

Yawn, Same old broken record with you. Why do you continue to lie?

Oh, And You've made a NEW claim without even backing up any of your old ones.


Show proof now that others have done the data in previous threads. Ontop of all the other proof you need to show for your Past Claims.


Put up or shut up Child

[MortVent]

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silly Kray keep looking the data is there, and you even were told where and how to find it. Others did the math too in past threads.

If you were worth the effort I'd go dig them up, but as usual you can't fathom facts

"I made a Bogus claim that I knew was a Lie and couldn't back up, So I'm gonna try and trick you into looking up the Evidence for My lie instead of me actually proving anything myself"

Yawn, Same old broken record with you. Why do you continue to lie?

Oh, And You've made a NEW claim without even backing up any of your old ones.


Show proof now that others have done the data in previous threads. Ontop of all the other proof you need to show for your Past Claims.


Put up or shut up Child

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Първоначално публикувано от MortVent:

Poor Kray, prove what I say is lies or admit you have nothing but your own lies. Any little rage and emoji will be proof positive you are a liar.

So go ahead and prove it for all once and for all.

You know what's even more amusing than Watching you try to dig yourself out of your Multiple lies?
Your circle jerk friends refussal to call you out on your lies too even tho it's pretty Obvious you are.

Since you can't prove one claim when called up on it... that will be my only response to you child.