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Vanessa Apr 10, 2018 @ 9:25am
Anyone using Horizon mod that can post me his modlist/loadorder?
You can use this site https://modwat.ch/ its the one reddit requires for mod/load order check.If anyone could help I would appreciate it so much!I am having trouble with the mods I am using and there are so many patches or incompatible mods for the horizon that I dont know where to start..
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Faedrill Apr 10, 2018 @ 9:42am 
Its not complete (waiting for 1.5) but it works no ctd.
Which mods you try to install with Horizon? Many mods dont work/are unbalanced for Horizon.

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 DLCUltraHighResolution.esm
8 8 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
9 9 ArmorKeywords.esm
10 a NAC.esm
11 b HUDFramework.esm
12 c Homemaker.esm
13 d SettlementKeywords.esm
14 e SimSettlements.esm
15 f MiscHairstyle.esp
16 10 AnotherLife.esp
17 11 hdreworkedprojectrevised.esp
18 12 Realistic Roads 2.0 Black.esp
19 13 Vivid Fallout - All in One - 2k.esp
20 14 ENBLightsHDRPatch.esp
21 15 EPO.esp
22 16 NAC-FarHarbor.esp
23 17 NAC-NukaWorld.esp
24 18 NAI.esp
25 19 Institute Patch for PRC.esp
26 1a BostonFPSFixAIO.esp
27 1b KSHairdos.esp
28 1c AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
29 1d AtomCatGarage.esp
30 1e CrimeTown.esp
31 1f DeadAirplane.esp
32 20 PlaneWreck.esp
33 21 TrainBar.esp
34 22 UFOCrashSite.esp
35 23 SettlementMenuManager.esp
36 24 dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
37 25 LooksMenu.esp
38 26 Immersive HUD.esp
39 27 Elvani's Track Pack - FIX.esp
40 28 JetfuelRadio.esp
41 29 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
42 2a OWR_CraftableDecor.esp
43 2b OWR_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
44 2c OWR_CraftableDecor_SKPatch.esp
45 2d OWR.esp
46 2e OWR2_CraftableDecor.esp
47 2f OWR2_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
48 30 OWR2_CraftableDecor_CW_SKPatch.esp
49 31 OWR2_CraftableDecor_SKPatch.esp
50 32 OWR2.esp
51 33 OWR2_SKEPatch.esp
52 34 OWR_AOC.esp
53 35 AtomicRadio.esp
54 36 SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp
55 37 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
56 38 ScrapUpdate - Ultimate.esp
57 39 AllSetsExtended.esp
58 3a ASEFarHarbor.esp
59 3b LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
60 3c ShellRain.esp
61 3d PD_LowerWeapon.esp
62 3e NoNegativeAffinityVanilla.esp
63 3f NoAffinityCooldown.esp
64 40 Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
65 41 BTInteriors_Project.esp
66 42 BTInt_Optimization.esp
67 43 EveryonesBestFriend.esp
68 44 EvilViking13_WastelandWalls.esp
69 45 DD_All_the_COncrete.esp
70 46 Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
71 47 AzarHolsteredWeapons.esp
72 48 Altairp's Animal Farm.esp
73 49 MJC_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
74 4a B84sThemedResidentials.esp
75 4b IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
76 4c JibsResidentialAddOnPack.esp
77 4d ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp
78 4e SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Defences_Brae.esp
79 4f SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Foundations_JtBryant.esp
80 50 JunkTown.esp
81 51 SimSettlements AWKCR Compatibiliy Patch by Vlad.esp
82 52 ohSIM_Sim_Settlements_Scrappers_Addon.esp
83 53 PCDugSIMAddon.esp
84 54 PCDugWedges.esp
85 55 SimHomestead.esp
86 56 SimSettlementsAddOnPack - RaiderRefugees.esp
87 57 TrailerParkDreams.esp
88 58 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Utilities_JtBryant.esp
89 59 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_SimTowers_JtBryant.esp
90 5a home_improvement_all.esp
91 5b ClassicShacks.esp
92 5c Business Settlements.esp
93 5d TransferSettlements.esp
94 5e LongRangeBulletHoles.esp
95 5f GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp
96 60 Keep Radiants In Commonwealth.esp
97 61 SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp
98 62 SimSettlements_XPAC_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp
99 63 RS_Sim_AddOn.esp
100 64 JT-Fences.esp
101 65 Sim_Settlements_Mayors.esp
102 66 WVSimSAddon.esp
103 67 FP_SimSettlements-Leaderpack.esp
104 68 Z_Architect.esp
105 69 Z_Horizon.esp
106 6a Z_Horizon_DLC_Automatron.esp
107 6b Z_Horizon_DLC_Nuka.esp
108 6c Z_Horizon_DLC_Workshop01.esp
109 6d Z_Horizon_DLC_Workshop02.esp
110 6e Z_Horizon_DLC_Workshop03.esp
111 6f Z_Horizon_DLC_FarHarbor.esp
112 70 Z_Horizon_Patch_Architect.esp
113 71 Z_Horizon_Diff_Outcast.esp
114 72 Z_Horizon_Desolation.esp
115 73 Z_Horizon_DEFUI.esp
116 74 Z_Horizon_Patch_Homemaker.esp
117 75 Z_Horizon_Patch_ScrapEverythingFull.esp
118 76 Z_Horizon_Patch_SimSettlements.esp
119 77 Z_BlurRemoval.esp
120 78 CBBE.esp
121 79 SK_Leaders1.esp
122 7a RadioOctoberStandalone.esp
Last edited by Faedrill; Apr 10, 2018 @ 9:44am
Vanessa Apr 10, 2018 @ 10:06am 
Originally posted by Faedrill:
Its not complete (waiting for 1.5) but it works no ctd.
Which mods you try to install with Horizon? Many mods dont work/are unbalanced for Horizon.

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 DLCUltraHighResolution.esm
8 8 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
9 9 ArmorKeywords.esm
10 a NAC.esm
11 b HUDFramework.esm
12 c Homemaker.esm
13 d SettlementKeywords.esm
14 e SimSettlements.esm
15 f MiscHairstyle.esp
16 10 AnotherLife.esp
17 11 hdreworkedprojectrevised.esp
18 12 Realistic Roads 2.0 Black.esp
19 13 Vivid Fallout - All in One - 2k.esp
20 14 ENBLightsHDRPatch.esp
21 15 EPO.esp
22 16 NAC-FarHarbor.esp
23 17 NAC-NukaWorld.esp
24 18 NAI.esp
25 19 Institute Patch for PRC.esp
26 1a BostonFPSFixAIO.esp
27 1b KSHairdos.esp
28 1c AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
29 1d AtomCatGarage.esp
30 1e CrimeTown.esp
31 1f DeadAirplane.esp
32 20 PlaneWreck.esp
33 21 TrainBar.esp
34 22 UFOCrashSite.esp
35 23 SettlementMenuManager.esp
36 24 dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
37 25 LooksMenu.esp
38 26 Immersive HUD.esp
39 27 Elvani's Track Pack - FIX.esp
40 28 JetfuelRadio.esp
41 29 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
42 2a OWR_CraftableDecor.esp
43 2b OWR_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
44 2c OWR_CraftableDecor_SKPatch.esp
45 2d OWR.esp
46 2e OWR2_CraftableDecor.esp
47 2f OWR2_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
48 30 OWR2_CraftableDecor_CW_SKPatch.esp
49 31 OWR2_CraftableDecor_SKPatch.esp
50 32 OWR2.esp
51 33 OWR2_SKEPatch.esp
52 34 OWR_AOC.esp
53 35 AtomicRadio.esp
54 36 SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp
55 37 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
56 38 ScrapUpdate - Ultimate.esp
57 39 AllSetsExtended.esp
58 3a ASEFarHarbor.esp
59 3b LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
60 3c ShellRain.esp
61 3d PD_LowerWeapon.esp
62 3e NoNegativeAffinityVanilla.esp
63 3f NoAffinityCooldown.esp
64 40 Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
65 41 BTInteriors_Project.esp
66 42 BTInt_Optimization.esp
67 43 EveryonesBestFriend.esp
68 44 EvilViking13_WastelandWalls.esp
69 45 DD_All_the_COncrete.esp
70 46 Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
71 47 AzarHolsteredWeapons.esp
72 48 Altairp's Animal Farm.esp
73 49 MJC_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
74 4a B84sThemedResidentials.esp
75 4b IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
76 4c JibsResidentialAddOnPack.esp
77 4d ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp
78 4e SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Defences_Brae.esp
79 4f SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Foundations_JtBryant.esp
80 50 JunkTown.esp
81 51 SimSettlements AWKCR Compatibiliy Patch by Vlad.esp
82 52 ohSIM_Sim_Settlements_Scrappers_Addon.esp
83 53 PCDugSIMAddon.esp
84 54 PCDugWedges.esp
85 55 SimHomestead.esp
86 56 SimSettlementsAddOnPack - RaiderRefugees.esp
87 57 TrailerParkDreams.esp
88 58 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Utilities_JtBryant.esp
89 59 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_SimTowers_JtBryant.esp
90 5a home_improvement_all.esp
91 5b ClassicShacks.esp
92 5c Business Settlements.esp
93 5d TransferSettlements.esp
94 5e LongRangeBulletHoles.esp
95 5f GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp
96 60 Keep Radiants In Commonwealth.esp
97 61 SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp
98 62 SimSettlements_XPAC_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp
99 63 RS_Sim_AddOn.esp
100 64 JT-Fences.esp
101 65 Sim_Settlements_Mayors.esp
102 66 WVSimSAddon.esp
103 67 FP_SimSettlements-Leaderpack.esp
104 68 Z_Architect.esp
105 69 Z_Horizon.esp
106 6a Z_Horizon_DLC_Automatron.esp
107 6b Z_Horizon_DLC_Nuka.esp
108 6c Z_Horizon_DLC_Workshop01.esp
109 6d Z_Horizon_DLC_Workshop02.esp
110 6e Z_Horizon_DLC_Workshop03.esp
111 6f Z_Horizon_DLC_FarHarbor.esp
112 70 Z_Horizon_Patch_Architect.esp
113 71 Z_Horizon_Diff_Outcast.esp
114 72 Z_Horizon_Desolation.esp
115 73 Z_Horizon_DEFUI.esp
116 74 Z_Horizon_Patch_Homemaker.esp
117 75 Z_Horizon_Patch_ScrapEverythingFull.esp
118 76 Z_Horizon_Patch_SimSettlements.esp
119 77 Z_BlurRemoval.esp
120 78 CBBE.esp
121 79 SK_Leaders1.esp
122 7a RadioOctoberStandalone.esp
Thats why I asked for yours!Do you think I will have problem with weather and environment/graphics mods?One more thing all these patches for the horizon are updated?And where did you find them?
Last edited by Vanessa; Apr 10, 2018 @ 10:10am
Faedrill Apr 10, 2018 @ 10:23am 
Weather is ok. Be carefull with True Storms and their Ghoul attack during a Rad Storm.
Environment depends on the mod.
Graphic/Texture mods dont break Horizon. NPC visual overhaul can be unbalanced for Horizon.

Not all patches are updated. Just search for Horizon patch or the mod you want on Nexus.

If your not sure about the mods post them.
Last edited by Faedrill; Apr 10, 2018 @ 10:28am
Vanessa Apr 10, 2018 @ 11:20am 
So clothing mods are not compatible except those fugly elianoras?I dont see anything on your list..I am using a bunch of mods that add workshop items..which are compatible and which are not?How should I tell?I am so confused..I guess I just use your mod list on letter cause there are incompatibilities on everything and dont wanna ruin the game from the start
Faedrill Apr 10, 2018 @ 11:29am 
All Clothing/Armor/Weapon mods are compatible with Horizon. They are just to strong without patch (to much dmg/armor).
I just dont use many other mods cause there is no need for them with Horizon. I dont need 100 Armor/Weapons.

Workshop mods are the same they should work with Horizon but they can break the balance depends on the mod.

Like i said if you are not sure post the mods.
Originally posted by Vanessa:
So clothing mods are not compatible except those fugly elianoras?I dont see anything on your list..I am using a bunch of mods that add workshop items..which are compatible and which are not?How should I tell?I am so confused..I guess I just use your mod list on letter cause there are incompatibilities on everything and dont wanna ruin the game from the start
What do you mean by 'incompatibilities on everything'? I've never heard of that tool linked in the OP so idk how reliable it is, but usually NMM/MO2, LOOT and xEdit should be the only things you need as a normal mod-user.
Patches for Horizon are rarely needed for anything but things that drastically change game mechanics which are also affected by Horizon. Simple mods that add new items might be unbalanced, but they won't break anything.

It would be much easier if you would post your mod list here, we might be able to help you find out what's causing problems.
Vanessa Apr 10, 2018 @ 12:43pm 
Originally posted by big stupid jellyfish:
Originally posted by Vanessa:
So clothing mods are not compatible except those fugly elianoras?I dont see anything on your list..I am using a bunch of mods that add workshop items..which are compatible and which are not?How should I tell?I am so confused..I guess I just use your mod list on letter cause there are incompatibilities on everything and dont wanna ruin the game from the start
What do you mean by 'incompatibilities on everything'? I've never heard of that tool linked in the OP so idk how reliable it is, but usually NMM/MO2, LOOT and xEdit should be the only things you need as a normal mod-user.
Patches for Horizon are rarely needed for anything but things that drastically change game mechanics which are also affected by Horizon. Simple mods that add new items might be unbalanced, but they won't break anything.

It would be much easier if you would post your mod list here, we might be able to help you find out what's causing problems.
There is nothing that causes me problems because I havent started yet!I just asked for a tested modlist and @Faedrill kindly provided his so I will follow it!Looks great too.Do i need survival options?I just want to be able to save
Last edited by Vanessa; Apr 10, 2018 @ 12:51pm
Faedrill Apr 10, 2018 @ 12:59pm 
My list isnt 100% finished there are some mods i havent put in and some are not displayed.

I used Unlimited Survival Mode to enable saving https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26163/
Horizon can make a hardsave every 10min or so.
Last edited by Faedrill; Apr 10, 2018 @ 1:05pm
Vanessa Apr 10, 2018 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by Faedrill:
My list isnt 100% finished there are some mods i havent put in and some are not displayed.

I used Unlimited Survival Mode to enable saving https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26163/
Horizon can make a hardsave every 10min or so.
So Homemaker is pretty much the only workshop mod you use apart from Sim settlements?I guess I wont install anything else as well because I had like 40 mods or more for workshop
Faedrill Apr 10, 2018 @ 1:38pm 
Gruffydd's Signs and Posters https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/9711/?tab=4&&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Ffallout4%2Fajax%2Fcomments%2F%3Fmod_id%3D9711%26page%3D1%26sort%3DDESC%26pid%3D0%26thread_id%3D3784070
General Dave's Wasteland Walls https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26008
Better Stores https://bethesda.net/de/mods/fallout4/mod-detail/2132710
Snappy HouseKit https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11639

Thats all workshops + Homemaker and SimSettlement i use. I disabled Snappy cause i wasnt using anything from it.
Vanilla Junk wall are not snappable and the mods i used for that are terrible. General Dave's walls are the only ones I liked. But its not necessary. Just like Gryffydds and Better Stores i just like the signs they add.


1 mod thats not in my list but maybe worth it. DIdnt test how much it change the ai. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/30140
Last edited by Faedrill; Apr 10, 2018 @ 1:45pm
Vanessa Apr 10, 2018 @ 5:58pm 
Originally posted by Faedrill:
Gruffydd's Signs and Posters https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/9711/?tab=4&&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Ffallout4%2Fajax%2Fcomments%2F%3Fmod_id%3D9711%26page%3D1%26sort%3DDESC%26pid%3D0%26thread_id%3D3784070
General Dave's Wasteland Walls https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26008
Better Stores https://bethesda.net/de/mods/fallout4/mod-detail/2132710
Snappy HouseKit https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11639

Thats all workshops + Homemaker and SimSettlement i use. I disabled Snappy cause i wasnt using anything from it.
Vanilla Junk wall are not snappable and the mods i used for that are terrible. General Dave's walls are the only ones I liked. But its not necessary. Just like Gryffydds and Better Stores i just like the signs they add.


1 mod thats not in my list but maybe worth it. DIdnt test how much it change the ai. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/30140
Extended dialogue interface is not compatible with it?I get error message and its an esm so not much I can do about..Thats how I made it..https://modwat.ch/u/aikatepp/plugins
Last edited by Vanessa; Apr 10, 2018 @ 6:28pm
Faedrill Apr 11, 2018 @ 12:53am 
It should work with Horizon. You can try install it again. If it dont work try Full Dialague https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1235/
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