Fallout 4 has better graphics than New Vegas, therefore it's better...

[Elena]

Just my opinion...

[Yhwach]

Brown here, brown there, brown everywhere.

[Kolljak]

Ah yeh it did go a little heavy on the brown colour town but Fo3 went heavy on tan/green.
that being Tan land Green water.

[Kolljak]

Now only if we could get fallout 3 in Fallout 4 graphics with NV's story telling. we would be set.

also foot note i HATED NV damage threshhold system. guy in metal armour suit with no helmet gets shot in face [ unarmoured ] by 50cal 10 damage.....

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Meliodas eredeti hozzászólása:

Brown here, brown there, brown everywhere.

Seriously, I can't remember a time in New Vegas where I sat back and thought the game looked good. Not when it was first released, and certainly not now, even with all the ENBs the world can throw at it. I literally think the best-looking spot in New Vegas is either the Sierra Madre viewed from the fountain where you enter from, or the Underwater cave in Lake Meade.

Meanwhile, I can still find TONS of spots even in Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and especially Fallout 4 that still look, artistically, amazing, even if the Graphics have failed.

Kolljak eredeti hozzászólása:

Now only if we could get fallout 3 in Fallout 4 graphics with NV's story telling. we would be set.

also foot note i HATED NV damage threshhold system. guy in metal armour suit with no helmet gets shot in face [ unarmoured ] by 50cal 10 damage.....

That's been consistent through all the games though. I think the only way to address it reasonably is to have a Head-Cripple, instead of being a concussion, just be instant death regardless of your health.

[Kolljak]

I hated how linear it was. you where forced to go down a highway or fist fight deathclaws.

[Yhwach]

Hobo Misanthropus eredeti hozzászólása:

Meliodas eredeti hozzászólása:

Brown here, brown there, brown everywhere.

Seriously, I can't remember a time in New Vegas where I sat back and thought the game looked good. Not when it was first released, and certainly not now, even with all the ENBs the world can throw at it. I literally think the best-looking spot in New Vegas is either the Sierra Madre viewed from the fountain where you enter from, or the Underwater cave in Lake Meade.

Meanwhile, I can still find TONS of spots even in Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and especially Fallout 4 that still look, artistically, amazing, even if the Graphics have failed.

New Vegas had a lot of the same in areas, which doesn't excuse the fact that, even If they were going for a western vibe, the lack of content, empty areas, and...brown...egh....gets in the way.

Not to mention there are obscuring invisible wall mountains that could've been repurposed to make the map itself feel more full rather than telling the player "don't go there". without actually telling them that.

Nevada actually has some decent flora to it, but they instead went for "one" type of flora and rolled with on top of that ugly shade of brown, and as before mentioned, morrowind, oblivion, 3, and even 4 were varied in its post apocalyptic world just enough to make it feel alive.

New Vegas felt dead, and not in a good way, not a pleasing art-style direction either.
And unironically, ironically, only one bomb fell and it was better off than the commonwealth.

[Kolljak]

Fallout 4 Better Location Damage. and other mods through the years have fixed this.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Kolljak eredeti hozzászólása:

Fallout 4 Better Location Damage. and other mods through the years have fixed this.

Makes them feel way too FPS like though. I'm not playing an ARPG for one-shot-one-kill ♥♥♥♥, There's ARMA and the entire slew of mods around that series, if I want to be killed instantly by snipers 3km away.

Kolljak eredeti hozzászólása:

I hated how linear it was. you where forced to go down a highway or fist fight deathclaws.

I just hill-scummed the Cazador swarm with a varmint rifle. Takes like 4 hours to kill them (Survival mode/Very hard) but you get Chance's Knife and a free pass to Vegas, lol

It's very obviously not intended, the same way it's not intended to get the Umbra Sword in Oblivion by shooting the dude with arrows from an unreachable ledge.

[jonnan.west]

Cmdr McTosh eredeti hozzászólása:

sjrekis eredeti hozzászólása:

What NV does better - create empty world spaces.

That about it.

Also adds actual gameplay, an actual story, actual rpg play etc.

But yeah I disliked how NV was just.. so empty.

Fallout 4, or Call of Fallout as it should be called is the reverse. It's got a great map, lots of cool locations yet, no story, no rpg, no immersion no.. anything. Just another Call of Duty game with a fallout reskin.

If we had New Vegas game on Call of Fallout's map that'd be amazing.

I'm amazed how many people really don't like the wide open spaces in New Vegas; Honestly that was always part of the ambiance I liked best there, places where it felt like there might not be anyone in fifty miles. If I had one insane wish in Bethesda games it would that the time/size scales were closer to one to one and had more quiet moments.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

jonnan.west eredeti hozzászólása:

Cmdr McTosh eredeti hozzászólása:

Also adds actual gameplay, an actual story, actual rpg play etc.

But yeah I disliked how NV was just.. so empty.

Fallout 4, or Call of Fallout as it should be called is the reverse. It's got a great map, lots of cool locations yet, no story, no rpg, no immersion no.. anything. Just another Call of Duty game with a fallout reskin.

If we had New Vegas game on Call of Fallout's map that'd be amazing.

I'm amazed how many people really don't like the wide open spaces in New Vegas; Honestly that was always part of the ambiance I liked best there, places where it felt like there might not be anyone in fifty miles. If I had one insane wish in Bethesda games it would that the time/size scales were closer to one to one and had more quiet moments.

The problem isn't wide-open spaces, it's poor use of those spaces, coupled with a bad scale execution and just an ugly world overall.

For example, I love the worldspace of Nuka World, which is very reminiscient of New Vegas, strikingly in fact. But unlike New Vegas, the artists who conceptualized the look of the Nuka World Worldspace knew how to create interesting lines of sight and create open usable spaces accentuated with points of interest.

Meanwhile, Obsidian just plops down a dry lake, puts a couple ants in it, and calls it a day.

[Yhwach]

That'd be called "The Time Saver™".
© Obsidian since Kotor 2

[jonnan.west]

Apostate eredeti hozzászólása:

You kids and your videos games. In my day we played Fallout. We had hexes and a 3rd person isometric view and we liked it.

Hexes? Luxury. Why in my day we had squares and had to click the exact right pixel to move!

[jonnan.west]

Hobo Misanthropus eredeti hozzászólása:

jonnan.west eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm amazed how many people really don't like the wide open spaces in New Vegas; Honestly that was always part of the ambiance I liked best there, places where it felt like there might not be anyone in fifty miles. If I had one insane wish in Bethesda games it would that the time/size scales were closer to one to one and had more quiet moments.

The problem isn't wide-open spaces, it's poor use of those spaces, coupled with a bad scale execution and just an ugly world overall.

For example, I love the worldspace of Nuka World, which is very reminiscient of New Vegas, strikingly in fact. But unlike New Vegas, the artists who conceptualized the look of the Nuka World Worldspace knew how to create interesting lines of sight and create open usable spaces accentuated with points of interest.

Meanwhile, Obsidian just plops down a dry lake, puts a couple ants in it, and calls it a day.

The Dry lake with the ant colony was literally one of the places I was fondly reminiscing about.

[VolkswagenFan69]

Meliodas eredeti hozzászólása:

Cmdr McTosh eredeti hozzászólása:

Also adds actual gameplay, an actual story, actual rpg play etc.

But yeah I disliked how NV was just.. so empty.

Fallout 4, or Call of Fallout as it should be called is the reverse. It's got a great map, lots of cool locations yet, no story, no rpg, no immersion no.. anything. Just another Call of Duty game with a fallout reskin.

If we had New Vegas game on Call of Fallout's map that'd be amazing.

Actual gameplay? Not any different from fallout 4.
New Vegas's story is awful.
Hahaha...obsidshill detected, captain.

Fallout 4 Is far from being call of duty and is as much of an rpg as New Vegas is, you're just disgruntled over the fact that they removed skills and can't get over it; that's fine, just don't make blatant statements.
It does, in fact, have a story and it's better than the one new vegas presented you with an impossible scenario, does in fact have rpg mechanics and is an rpg, plenty of immersion and even more so with the survival gamemode.

The fact that you even compare it to call of duty makes me doubt your experience with roleplaying games.

This may just be me, but I didn't really like the way that skills worked because I always found it confusing. Just me though.

[God's Drunkest Soldier]

Nah. FO4 is 90000000000% better because it has chopping pet