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GardenData61371 tiene Fallout 4

27 ABR 2019 a las 6:56

I'm a good guy. Which faction should I join?

Tough choices.

Última edición por GardenData61371; 27 ABR 2019 a las 6:56

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Publicado originalmente por Darth Cannabis:

If push came to shove, while being a good guy, I would go with Minutemen over others.

At basic principle, they are a militia to protect the people. While there are past issues on leadership and power, the basic principle is a non selfish and noble one. At no point will you be asked to do something that is crosses into gray areas. In some cases, your encouraged to make a good choice, even thou your not forced to. It upsets your minuteman friend, if you do not sound the evacuation before blowing up institute, which in itself is only fought by minutemen, in self defense after the synth attack at the Castle.

While some the other factions, can be seen the same in the sense of a noble cause, at least 2 I would have to rule out as selfish in pursuit of that noble cause. They also at some point force moral decision as to what to do, and to actually take some stance beyond just protect the people.

The BoS takes all salvaged tech to "protect" mankind from it, but have no issues using it themselves. Use of force, and elimination of all synths can certainly be seen as troubling, and at some point you do have to make moral choices, or take hard line stances. Examples range from the Danse discovery, and to how you get supplies. While you certainly can make the good choice it requires charisma to do so, otherwise some there are some dark spots. Also no matter what with BoS, there needs to be that hard line stance against the Institute and Railroad, (and beyond that, all synths in general is encouraged). You can certainly play a good guy as BoS, but its more of a neutral good, and you are more the exception than the rule.

Likewise the Institute, regardless of the end plan (which is never fully cleared up in itself), has selfishly hidden away, and seem to too easily disregard the moral standing, in pursuit of things on the surface. They have made dubious moral choices in the past, and due to the independent nature of the departments, I do not see that truly changing, even with player as Director in end. While conflict with the BoS can be seen as self defense, most of their other actions will involve potentially dubious moral choices. While you can try to play the good guy, its not exactly easy to overlook the wrongdoings on Institute while doing so.

The Railroad, can be considered a noble cause, but there is much debate as to what extent they are misguided in their beliefs, or simply not effective in carrying out their objectives. Examples of this are the mind wiped synths that go rouge, or otherwise malfunction, debate over whether the whole process, is actually increasing the possibility of conflict with rest of commonwealth (how are they to know whether a discovered synth was with institute, or simply a wiped escapee?) and even whether or not they even care about anything beyond help synths. Conflict with Institute and BoS are both inevitable due to the idealogical differences. I personally can't say much more on them, as they are the ones I honestly have the least interest in. Desmonda just rubs me the wrong way on that 1st meeting, and even most of the rest of them, just aren't liked by me at a personal level.

So overall, I say for a good guy, go with the American Patriot ideal, and join up with the Minutemen to protect the commonwealth.

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fauxpas

27 ABR 2019 a las 10:50

Eh, take your pick between the BoS and the Institute, both are decent moral choices.

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Grendalcat tiene Fallout 4

27 ABR 2019 a las 11:59

Children Of Atom. They are the future in this radioactive hellhole, where the art of picking up trash has been lost forever.

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The Inept European tiene Fallout 4

27 ABR 2019 a las 13:08

If you want to be the good guy, join the Minutemen, with maybe a side order of Railroad.

If you want to be part of the future of the Commonwealth, apply to join the radroaches or the molerats.

#18

The Inept European tiene Fallout 4

27 ABR 2019 a las 13:11

If your idea of being the Good Guy is "subverting Evil from within", join the BoS or the Institute.

#19

red255

27 ABR 2019 a las 14:14

there are 4 choices.

minutemen are lacking a choice really make your own faction, no real flavor to them, I dont really consider them.

the Institute kidnaps people, replaces them with robots who go on killing rampages and they turn the kidnapped people into super mutants for ♥♥♥♥♥ and giggles. they are bad people.

The Railroad is synths who believe they are free but really are still under the institutes control. institute humor I guess, preformance art or some such. really just toasters. not really a faction. or maybe they are. If you could free them from the institute maybe they would be people. perhaps a worthy endevor, prehaps theres more hidden code inside their heads. who knows.

they are broadcasting their location back to the institute, well enough to find their location as far away as DC from MA. with no knowledge of the occurance or even the ability to determine the breach of security. when it should be hellishly obvious their mental functionality is being impaired.

theres no good fix to turn the toasters into people.

we have the final Faction the brother hood of steel.

so really I've boiled it down. Minutemen -player choice. not really a faction
RailRoad, - fully controlled by the institute.
Institute - Evil Mad Scientist kidnapers.

so we have just one faction left the brother hood of steel. who does not go on campaigns of kidnapping and murder for giggles. they have their flaws, and maybe you can't forgive their flaws, in which case go minutemen. but there really are only two factions, and institute is evil.

#20

Langkard

27 ABR 2019 a las 15:24

It is also possible to keep the Railroad and the BoS friendly while finishing the Minuteman quest line, leaving only the Institute as the enemy. You'll avoid the worst of the moral choices the BoS toss at you and you'll have to avoid taking and/or finishing certain quests with both the Railroad and the BoS, but it's worth trying on a play through. Google "Comprehensive guide to not destroying factions in Fallout 4" for the quests to avoid/choose.

#21

Honesty

27 ABR 2019 a las 15:28

There is a way where you the game with the Minutemen and destroy the Institute - leaving both the BoS and Railroad alive and well.

This is a "hackery" (not really - but really) way to do it and finish the game - but finish it does without any issues what so ever.

#22

fauxpas

27 ABR 2019 a las 16:04

Publicado originalmente por Honesty:
There is a way where you the game with the Minutemen and destroy the Institute - leaving both the BoS and Railroad alive and well.

This is a "hackery" (not really - but really) way to do it and finish the game - but finish it does without any issues what so ever.

Uh-huh, choosing to abandon the plot isn't "finishing" anything.

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Grendalcat tiene Fallout 4

27 ABR 2019 a las 19:37

Publicado originalmente por Honesty:
There is a way where you the game with the Minutemen and destroy the Institute - leaving both the BoS and Railroad alive and well.

This is a "hackery" (not really - but really) way to do it and finish the game - but finish it does without any issues what so ever.

I managed to do this somewhat by accident, and there were a couple of issues.
Maxson wouldn't talk to me anymore(not a huge loss), and for some reason my fusion core usage rate reverted back as though I had never taken any levels of the Nuclear Physicist perk.

#24

bunny de fluff tiene Fallout 4

27 ABR 2019 a las 19:47

I would kick the stupid Mayor out and be the Mayor of DC myself, and lead DC guards to glory.

#25

Darth Cannabis tiene Fallout 4

27 ABR 2019 a las 20:31

Publicado originalmente por Grendalcat:
Publicado originalmente por Honesty:
There is a way where you the game with the Minutemen and destroy the Institute - leaving both the BoS and Railroad alive and well.

This is a "hackery" (not really - but really) way to do it and finish the game - but finish it does without any issues what so ever.

I managed to do this somewhat by accident, and there were a couple of issues.
Maxson wouldn't talk to me anymore(not a huge loss), and for some reason my fusion core usage rate reverted back as though I had never taken any levels of the Nuclear Physicist perk.

Perk bugs do sometimes happen. If you check the wiki, you can usually also find the console codes for adding and removing perks, in order to reset them. Had to do that with the Pain Train perk when it wasn't working.

You may want to do that to reset the perk, with Nuclear Physicist and see if it fixes.

Última edición por Darth Cannabis; 27 ABR 2019 a las 20:32

#26

YoBoyMaxis tiene Fallout 4

27 ABR 2019 a las 21:09

There really is no way to not be the good guy. Sure, you can say something nasty to someone, but it will always have the same outcome.

#27

Darth Cannabis tiene Fallout 4

27 ABR 2019 a las 21:19

Publicado originalmente por YoBoyJStalin:
There really is no way to not be the good guy. Sure, you can say something nasty to someone, but it will always have the same outcome.

Well I am going to try on one play. My plan involves using Minutemen to infiltrate the Institute, simply murdering the Railroad after 1st meeting in a fit of rage, blowing up the Pyrmidian, Institute, then placing Preston and other npcs in a prison made at murkwater construction, before becoming overboss, and conquering everything.

The 1st settlement Preston sent me too, was a failed mission cause I just blasted them both with double barrel explosive shotty. Others I am building up, just so they will be more fun to conquer with gangs later. Blatant murder, defilement of corpses, Nuka gangs as dominate force when all is said and done, a second betrayal of Minutemen, and all factions destroyed, will be good enough for me.

#28

Solomon Hawk tiene Fallout 4

27 ABR 2019 a las 22:17

OP,
Seriously, disregard what most are saying. You're asking for their opinions.

Play through each side and decide for yourself.

The one question to ask yourself while you play is this; "Am I prone to paranoia?"

Keep your head screwed on straight and you should do fine.

Última edición por Solomon Hawk; 27 ABR 2019 a las 22:19

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