Instigating Sniper Rifle

[Zux]

Is this thing non-existent?!? I seem to find EVERY other prefix when farming but the instigating, if you guys have gotten one which level were you and where did you farm for it?!

I've seen someone get it at around level 21. Currently while farming for this I am level 29 (not sure if level increases chances of getting more rare prefixes)

Thank you.

[Chaosium]

Just like the rest, it's completely random. No specific ritual, trick or anything.

[Doombringer]

Legendary chance goes up with level (max 20% at level 50+) and difficulty (0.5x on very easy to 1.5x on survival/very hard) - so can be 30%.
(Mods/console commands can make it whatever you want though.)
(Also after a legendary spawns, the game doesn't roll legendary chance for the next 6 mobs that could be legendaries - this is why during settlement attacks which spawn 10 enemies you will never see more than 2 legendaries)

You probably want an instigating gauss instead of sniper rifle...

If you have far harbor installed it adds a ton of garbage legendary abilities which makes finding a specific one harder.
Looks like 38 possible abilities for ballistic weapons (if you have far harbor, 32 otherwise) and the chance for a hunting rifle at level 40+ is 4.046%, so chance for a legendary to be an instigating hunting rifle is:
0.1065%.

(At lower level some weapons aren't available as legendaries, so hunting rifle is more likely to drop, but legendaries show up less often...)

[Blaquicat]

I didn't find it either.
Im using the Guardian;;

[DouglasGrave]

Instigating is actually one of the more common legendary effects because it can turn up on any weapon type, and the game picks the item before selecting a valid effect.

But if I recall correctly, the game does keep a short list of recently-used legendary effects so that it can prevent the same effects turning up too frequently. So if you just got an Instigating weapon recently, you may need to get some other legendary items before it will turn up again.

[Zux]

Originally posted by Doombringer:

Legendary chance goes up with level (max 20% at level 50+) and difficulty (0.5x on very easy to 1.5x on survival/very hard) - so can be 30%.
(Mods/console commands can make it whatever you want though.)
(Also after a legendary spawns, the game doesn't roll legendary chance for the next 6 mobs that could be legendaries - this is why during settlement attacks which spawn 10 enemies you will never see more than 2 legendaries)

You probably want an instigating gauss instead of sniper rifle...

If you have far harbor installed it adds a ton of garbage legendary abilities which makes finding a specific one harder.
Looks like 38 possible abilities for ballistic weapons (if you have far harbor, 32 otherwise) and the chance for a hunting rifle at level 40+ is 4.046%, so chance for a legendary to be an instigating hunting rifle is:
0.1065%.

(At lower level some weapons aren't available as legendaries, so hunting rifle is more likely to drop, but legendaries show up less often...)

Good to know. And i do have all the dlc's installed. Not using mods currently, havent really ever played with mods tbh

[Zux]

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

Instigating is actually one of the more common legendary effects because it can turn up on any weapon type, and the game picks the item before selecting a valid effect.

But if I recall correctly, the game does keep a short list of recently-used legendary effects so that it can prevent the same effects turning up too frequently. So if you just got an Instigating weapon recently, you may need to get some other legendary items before it will turn up again.

I haven't seen any Instigating weapon variant for any weapon on this save i think

[Zux]

Originally posted by Chaosium:

Just like the rest, it's completely random. No specific ritual, trick or anything.

Good to know my RNG is just the worst xD thank you

[Bugscuttle]

Meanwhile I continue farming for the ever-elusive NeverEnding Double Barrel Shotty...

[Zux]

Originally posted by Bugscuttle:

Meanwhile I continue farming for the ever-elusive NeverEnding Double Barrel Shotty...

Not even gonna lie, that was my 2nd legendary on this save xD i didnt even attempt to farm for it either.. ):

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Zux:

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

Instigating is actually one of the more common legendary effects because it can turn up on any weapon type, and the game picks the item before selecting a valid effect.

But if I recall correctly, the game does keep a short list of recently-used legendary effects so that it can prevent the same effects turning up too frequently. So if you just got an Instigating weapon recently, you may need to get some other legendary items before it will turn up again.

I haven't seen any Instigating weapon variant for any weapon on this save i think

just watch out for it as a possibility, especially if you're farming extensively for it and not seeing the desired effect turn up at all.

From what I remember, the game is counting whether it made a random legendary item with the effect recently, not whether you found that item. So if a legendary enemy spawned with an Instigating weapon when you passed nearby, that would count as the effect turning up recently even if you didn't fight them and take it.

[Zux]

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

Originally posted by Zux:

I haven't seen any Instigating weapon variant for any weapon on this save i think

just watch out for it as a possibility, especially if you're farming extensively for it and not seeing the desired effect turn up at all.

From what I remember, the game is counting whether it made a random legendary item with the effect recently, not whether you found that item. So if a legendary enemy spawned with an Instigating weapon when you passed nearby, that would count as the effect turning up recently even if you didn't fight them and take it.

Good to know, in the past two days i've farmed loot locked enemies for roughly 6 between both days and didnt find any. I've just come to the conclusion to just wait a bit before attempting again, and level up a few times or something

[ut]

I got an Instigating laser musket, but I'm not sure if a 6-crank musket does 12x damage or 7x damage.

[Zux]

Originally posted by ut:

I got an Instigating laser musket, but I'm not sure if a 6-crank musket does 12x damage or 7x damage.

I could see that being very good tbh, not sure how it would apply the bonus. I 'feel' like it would be 12x though, dont quote me on it xD

[Lucifer69]

Instigating 6 crank laser musket if you can deal with all those cranks, otherwise instigating laser sniper.

As a fellow brotherhood knight, I strictly use energy weapons. That said, I know a crazy fellow who's a user of virtually every drug in the commonwealth and swears by his junkie rocket hammer being the highest damaging weapons ever devised. More so than even a mirv fatman. I cannot confirm such a theory, but he ritually swats away mutants with it.

In all seriousness, here's a nice Reddit on the topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/3t08jh/farming_spots_for_legendary_enemies/

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Lucifer69:

Instigating 6 crank laser musket if you can deal with all those cranks, otherwise instigating laser sniper.

Note as well that it's not just the time spent cranking it, but the fact it consumes 6 fusion cells per shot.

It terms of caps, it costs more to fire a 6-crank laser musket shot than it does to fire a gauss rifle.