Is Pickmans gallery the worst quest? *spoilers*

[edmek55555]

I just find the idea that a serial killer known for killing raiders is defended by an absolutely massive group of raiders

[JonWoo]

Aren't the raiders there to kill him, not defend him?

[OutsidR]

Originally posted by Jonwoo89:

Aren't the raiders there to kill him, not defend him?

correct

[edmek55555]

Originally posted by Jonwoo89:

Aren't the raiders there to kill him, not defend him?

The dialogue makes it seem that way and I think that is the intention but they end up defending him more or less and it really doesn’t make sense for the raiders to set up sleeping bags and such in the house if a guy they came to kill. They even have their own turrets there. Not exactly the activity of people who are hunting someone

[jonnan.west]

Originally posted by edmek55555:

Originally posted by Jonwoo89:

Aren't the raiders there to kill him, not defend him?

The dialogue makes it seem that way and I think that is the intention but they end up defending him more or less and it really doesn’t make sense for the raiders to set up sleeping bags and such in the house if a guy they came to kill. They even have their own turrets there. Not exactly the activity of people who are hunting someone

If you listen the raiders are fighting their way through his traps - they are definitely not on the same side. If I were to venture a guess, the sleeping bags were to keep him there in shifts while they brought in turrets to ensure he didn't double back behind them.

[Chaosium]

They're not defending him smh, how can you be so wrong

[edmek55555]

Originally posted by jonnan.west:

Originally posted by edmek55555:

The dialogue makes it seem that way and I think that is the intention but they end up defending him more or less and it really doesn’t make sense for the raiders to set up sleeping bags and such in the house if a guy they came to kill. They even have their own turrets there. Not exactly the activity of people who are hunting someone

If you listen the raiders are fighting their way through his traps - they are definitely not on the same side. If I were to venture a guess, the sleeping bags were to keep him there in shifts while they brought in turrets to ensure he didn't double back behind them.

Yeah they definitely try to set it up as the raiders hunting him with dialogue and holotapes, it just doesn’t really come together properly. The raiders attack anyone who tries to come after Pickman, they stationed defenses (if they wanted to hunt him it wouldn’t need to be a long drawn out process and Pickman isn’t exactly a fighter), and most of the raiders were just hanging out totally still nowhere near Pickman.

I can’t think of any other quests that were handled in such a weird way, by the end of it I almost just let Pickman live because of those raiders couldn’t realize they were ultimately creating a stronghold for the man they were “hunting” then yeah, they probably deserved whatever was coming to em

[IvantheFormidable]

Originally posted by edmek55555:

Yeah they definitely try to set it up as the raiders hunting him with dialogue and holotapes, it just doesn’t really come together properly. The raiders attack anyone who tries to come after Pickman,

I mean, if you look at it from their perspective, they're trying to hunt down and kill this guy, and here comes some heavily armed stranger and starts barging around their perimeter. How do they know you're after Pickman and not there to kill them?

I'll give you that setting up turrets is a bit bizarre. As for raiders not being near Pickman, you need some folks to guard the perimeter, and not everyone needs to be shooting directly at Pickman.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Chaosium:

They're not defending him smh, how can you be so wrong

Something about a tool shed and rubber mallet.

Originally posted by edmek55555:

I can’t think of any other quests that were handled in such a weird way

A three way fight is weird? You and two groups of mobs hostile to each other.

You can not think of any other instances at all? Have you even played Fallout 4?

Lexington, multiple encounters
Greentech, chasing the courser.
Battle of Bunker Hill
Half dozen vanilla random encounters of mobs fighting each other
Automatron random encounters of mobs fighting each other
Mass Pike Tunnels
University Point

That is just a few off the top of my head...

[jonnan.west]

Originally posted by IvantheFormidable:

Originally posted by edmek55555:

Yeah they definitely try to set it up as the raiders hunting him with dialogue and holotapes, it just doesn’t really come together properly. The raiders attack anyone who tries to come after Pickman,

I mean, if you look at it from their perspective, they're trying to hunt down and kill this guy, and here comes some heavily armed stranger and starts barging around their perimeter. How do they know you're after Pickman and not there to kill them?

I'll give you that setting up turrets is a bit bizarre. As for raiders not being near Pickman, you need some folks to guard the perimeter, and not everyone needs to be shooting directly at Pickman.

You're right, he's not a ’fighter’, he's a serial killer. Everything I see indicates he's good at coming at them from out of the shadows, and has doubled back a couple times when they thought they had him trapped. So they're leaving people in back to ensure they don't get caught that way again.

[bunny de fluff]

Pickman is like a one man janitor company of the wasteland, cleansing the land of bandits and raider scums