VATS Build

[Sparky862]

Can someone link me something on how to spend SPECIAL and what to spend my extra SPECIAL Bonus point early on?

Can not find a trustworthy site with info as everyone has their owm opinions and ways to do thing.

I guess Id prob spend most in Luck and Perception?

[Zotliatlicor]

Nope. For VATS build i think you should focus to MaX Agility Asap. No VATS build can benefit from Low Agility as it is the main motor in generating Action Points.

And look up FudgeMuppet on Youtube and search their Gunslinger Build. Blissfully good. Or make your own Gunslinger (pistols are AGI 1 !!).

[Zotliatlicor]

Link to Fudge Muppets VATS Gunslinger Build:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsICmq7RsmI&list=PLt4dvC3zSbYADD53fVSCNYb_wLMz8Ka8x&index=63&t=731s

I do believe i could help you create one by myself but your initial post lets me believe that is not what you look for.

The main thing is that Pistols have low Action Point Cost, and Paired with High Agility and High Luck makes for some insane Damage dealing, even though Pistols are on the low end damage wise.

[Sparky862]

I was really hoping in rather running with Bolt Weapons. You know, single chambers... Like Rifles. Never felt Pistol vibes in any game. I like mt Rifles. Like the Hunting Rifle in FO3. From start to finish I ran with that gun.

I will give that video a look. Thank you for helping me or leading me onto a path.

[bunny de fluff]

Originally posted by Sparky862:

I guess Id prob spend most in Luck and Perception?

not perception, no. You would want either agi or luck, you could keep per at around 4 or 5 for lockpicking purpose.

[Zotliatlicor]

Perception 8 Sniper does not use VATS to tick, as it is based on Scoped Targeting. Perception 9 Penetrator is really good but not at all needed for a VATS build, shooting through obstacles is cool but doesnt really add up.

And Perception 10 Consentrated FIre is the only really useful VATS perk. But investing 10 points in PER just for this seems unwise as you really need AGI and LUCK.

When you reach the high levels you can flesh out Perception. At lvl 110 i have all SPECIAl at 10.

[IvantheFormidable]

Originally posted by Sparky862:

I was really hoping in rather running with Bolt Weapons. You know, single chambers... Like Rifles. Never felt Pistol vibes in any game. I like mt Rifles. Like the Hunting Rifle in FO3. From start to finish I ran with that gun.

I will give that video a look. Thank you for helping me or leading me onto a path.

Then use bolt weapons? Nothing's stopping you, and the perk for gunslinger affects bolt action pipe pistols as well. You're free to create your own build, or simply change the gunslinger build slightly to suit your own preferences.

[ghpstage]

Perception, Agility and Luck all have significant impacts on VATS, and all contain several perks that work well with it. You won't have enough SPECIAL points to go hard on all three from the start and a lot of things that are not VATS specific still work with VATS (i.e. damage multipliers, sneak attacks) so it would be best to first pick out some of the perks you would like to try and base your SPECIAL around that. I wouldn't recommend using Agility as a dump stat, 5 or more should be fine regardless.

Your equipment will have a large impact. One of the military outfits you can wear under armour can give +2 AGI, and VATS enhanced armours are obviously awesome.
If you like hunting rifles then you can tailor them to VATS use by giving one a short stock, reflex sight and sticking with light barrels.

Making sure you are 'well rested' will give an extra 2 AGI.

Originally posted by Zotliatlicor:

Perception 8 Sniper does not use VATS to tick, as it is based on Scoped Targeting. Perception 9 Penetrator is really good but not at all needed for a VATS build, shooting through obstacles is cool but doesnt really add up.

And Perception 10 Consentrated FIre is the only really useful VATS perk. But investing 10 points in PER just for this seems unwise as you really need AGI and LUCK.

The knock down effect from the second rank of sniper doesn't require VATS, but does trigger in it, its decent but mostly for cheesing in a slow boring way, i'm not a big fan.

Penetrator is a bit mechanically weird, but becomes very strong once you know how to game it. While it is obvious that it turns sentry bots into a joke, the workings of the damage reductions when shooting through objects is much more mysterious.... especially with crits seemingly ignoring them entirely (well... only for the first round with burst fire weapons), and being able to use the third person camera to allow you to select targets your character can't even see isn't something that would normally cross someones mind.
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