Can you spare a load order? (FIXED)

[TheOneAndOnlyMeep]

So I have this problem- Sanctuary keeps CTD when fast traveling or entering (I play survival mode, and have a mod which enables hard saving and fast travel, as well as console). Before anyone makes the assumption that these are the issue, I have played with them since October of last year with no issues, making sure to keep versions current. Starting shortly after the forced move to Vortex from NMM, I get a CTD when traveling to sanctuary which never resolves and has no error message. I have spent three weeks trying to fix this and completely nuked FO4 from my PC (saves, backups, F4SE, uninstall and re-install Vortex, everything) counting 5 times now.

Kicker- it almost ALWAYS starts during or after the quest "The First Step". This is extremely consistent.

I do use homemaker mod, and lately the BOS platforms have been bugged for CTDs. So, I snip them out with FO4edit and it works. Until I am in the mission and return from killing all the raiders in Corvega.

Then, magically, it crashes. AT THE SAME TIME AS ALWAYS.

COC teleporting to sanctuary also causes an immediate crash (these are always in the loading screens, regardless of crash cause).

My system far exceeds the minimum specs, and these mods have worked for me since October. They only went belly up about three weeks ago. No one's suggestions have helped.

I just Re-Tried to one by one approach. This time, all the little mods are broken. If It's a mod issue, then it is seemingly random and has a mind of its own. Re-installing the game and wiping all content didn't help for 5 times, new characters have the same exact problem, and quick fixes such as waiting 24 hours in an interior don't work. I've been trying for 3 weeks to fix this. I give up.

I know I'm beating a dead horse now, but I need to just abandon my load order at this point and rely on someone else's order. If anyone has an order that can do the following (or at least most of it) and not have a ctd every time fast travel to anywhere, especially settlements) FROM A VORTEX ORGANIZER:

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-Use Survival mode while still having Manual Saving, Console, and Fast Travel enabled
(At this point, I would be ok with just going Very hard Difficulty and putting in a food requirement mod so I can disable all autosaves)

-have no settlement limits (at least for building and placing objects, don't need to expand boundaries)
-be able to clean up unwanted junk and debris from any settlement (scrap everything/spring cleaning, etc.)
-use Place Everywhere
-use Homemaker
-Use Stairs/Ladders/Ramps (SLR) (no masterplan version)
-Use Settlement Keywords Expanded

-use Heather Casdin, Deadlier Deathclaws, See-Through Scopes/Framework, Armorsmith Extended, AWKCR, WIPAG, Doombased Weapons Merged, In Game ESP Explorer, Wasteland Walls, Basement Living, and The Danse Dilema

-Use new location mods (most importantly- Atomic World, South of the Sea, N.E.S.T. Bunker Project, Lexington Interiors, Concord Expanded, Salem Expanded, Hagen Expanded, Swamps Expanded, Beantown Interiors Project, and Stumble Upon Interiors, as these don't seem to cause problems themselves)
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I would appreciate it if you could give me that list ASAP so I can try it during my off time this week.

My game is broken on my end. I'll have to rely on someone else's "game" and load order to ever play again, it seems. Then, I'll just need to download some more trivial weapon and pictures mods that have worked fine before.

(Examples of these "trivial" mods I would have to still put in myself would be Boston Jacket Fatigues, M1897 Shotgun, Glock 17/18, UMP45, MP5, M16 Pack, CS5 Rifle, M2010 Sniper Rifle, Mosin Nagant, M14, 9mm Browning Pistol, Anti-Materiel Rifle, Bozar, Dragunov, Danse Face Cleanup, Danse GTFO Power Armor, Sanctuary Cleaned Up, Sanctuary Clean roads, Cool and Sexy Clutter Pack, Wasteland Walls, Hot And Horny Magazine Covers, and the Steve Carrel "NO GOD PLEASE NO" death shout.

[TheOneAndOnlyMeep]

Ok, verifying integrity of game files brought back all of the stuff I cleaned out. Is this normal?

Below is the result of verification by steam. The cleanup notices weren't there after I cleaned them and now they're back after verifying

[TheOneAndOnlyMeep]

DLCRobot.esm D69027EA
FO4Edit v4.0.0 found 49 ITM records, 38 deleted references and 1 deleted navmesh. A guide for running Quick Auto Clean can be found here.

DLCworkshop01.esm 47BAE27E
FO4Edit v4.0.0 found 6 ITM records. A guide for running Quick Auto Clean can be found here.

DLCCoast.esm F1F28026
FO4Edit v4.0.0 found 85 ITM records and 86 deleted references. A guide for running Quick Auto Clean can be found here.

DLCworkshop02.esm 83ABC821
FO4Edit v4.0.0 found 2 ITM records. A guide for running Quick Auto Clean can be found here.

DLCworkshop03.esm E0089FBB
FO4Edit v4.0.0 found 22 ITM records and 10 deleted references. A guide for running Quick Auto Clean can be found here.

DLCNukaWorld.esm 43D25C56
FO4Edit v4.0.0 found 193 ITM records, 418 deleted references and 7 deleted navmeshes. A guide for running Quick Auto Clean can be found here.

DLCUltraHighResolution.esm 9B2A2AAC
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp 2.0.7 3458B7A6
Delev, Invent, Names
SFE.esp 0B8CD287
SurvivalSaving_Holotapes.esp C5309FA9
console.esp A25892B7

[Jo]

Originally posted by TheOneAndOnlyMeep:

Ok, verifying integrity of game files brought back all of the stuff I cleaned out. Is this normal?

Below is the result of verification by steam. The cleanup notices weren't there after I cleaned them and now they're back after verifying

I would focus less on Steam reinstalling certain Fallout 4 files and more on the steps mentioned by people in previous posts concerning your mods etc.

Have you tried playing the game vanilla for a bit yet? Just start a new character for testing purposes and run around Sanctuary, leave Sanctuary and come back etc. If things are running fine then it's definitely a mod compatibility issue.

[TheOneAndOnlyMeep]

I'll try that first, but I would still like an answer after cleaning all those DLCs and having them become dirty again after verifying local game file integrity

[Jo]

Originally posted by TheOneAndOnlyMeep:

I'll try that first, but I would still like an answer after cleaning all those DLCs and having them become dirty again after verifying local game file integrity

It will show as "dirty" in LOOT for example but your game will still run nonetheless. Happens in my game too and I don't have any problems running my game. I think I saw a video (by Gopher) on youtube about how to clean up "dirty" files but I think in your case this isn't the issue. It's more likely a mod thing - but doing a test vanilla run without mods for a bit will check that for you.

[TheOneAndOnlyMeep]

I can still have f4se and use the f4se launcher right? For vanilla testing purposes?

[TheOneAndOnlyMeep]

Not really a "mod"

[Jo]

Originally posted by TheOneAndOnlyMeep:

I can still have f4se and use the launcher right? For vanilla testing purposes?

I should think so... however, have you double checked you have the latest version of F4SE installed and not a previous version? Download page here:-
https://f4se.silverlock.org/

Also, a useful video here by Gopher about how to install it in case something went wrong with your installation of F4SE too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=Hoapvrohsd0

[TheOneAndOnlyMeep]

I have the latest version. Downloaded it once this whole nightmare began and I had to do my first clean install of the game 3 weeks ago

[TheOneAndOnlyMeep]

Ok, launcher works fine and vanilla seems ok. Now going to go with Saving, Console, Fast Travel, Achievements, and Unofficial patch and make a hard save before leaving the vault and back it up in my desktop save folder so I can delete the save if it starts to bug after putting in more mods and paste the pre-vault exit save back in the directory.

Before leaving the vault, my first several mods (which have never given me much trouble before) are as folows:

-Homemaker
-Scrap Everything
-Place Everywhere
-Heather Casdin (I teleport to her to recruit before going to Concord)
-Sanctuary Post War Homestead
-Beantown Interiors
-Concord Expanded
-Mosin Nagant
-BF1 Mosin Nagant Animations
-Boston Jacket Fatigues
-Colt Delta Elite 10mm replacer

Here goes. I'll get back to you all this evening after work

[Jo]

Well at least the problem isn't your computer or your base game installation. Yeah a good idea to add mods slowly and a bit at a time and check if all ok still rather than installing a load in all at once. It's a laborious process I know but it's the only way to find out.

[Jo]

PS - I'd still be wary of that Scrap Everything mod however. I used it once ages ago in my game, deleted the house where the workbench is and my game constantly crashed after. I use Spring Cleaning personally as Scrap Everything can delete base game files which are necessary (so I heard).

Also I was reading some of the recent comments on the Scrap Everything mod on Nexus. The guy who has taken over the mod as the previous mod creator has "abandoned it" said he probably won't be updating for a while as he's still learning scripting!

That doesn't exactly inspire me with confidence I have to say. lol

[TheOneAndOnlyMeep]

I'm also probably not gonna use NewCalibers or any patches for other mods that don't need it at base. I hardly use the extra ammo types and it clutters up storage (plus it has weight for the new calibers)

[TheOneAndOnlyMeep]

I never delete that house. Just stuff inside it to clean it up

[TheOneAndOnlyMeep]

Ok. I made a save and backed it up just after exiting the vault. Now to install the first battery of mods I was talking about. Going to play through "The First Step"

Should I try actually using scrap everything and homemaker in game you think? During this playthrough before adding more mods, or to just not scrap anything in sanctuary?