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Help Organizing My Load Order
In all my days of modding, and looking at guides, I still have never found the perfect way to do it. I don't know what all the words mean and get too easily overwhelmed and then end up avoiding playing simply to avoid organizing my load order. I can do it thanks to LOOT, but I need some help based on the mods I use since I don't know where they all go.

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I would also like to know how to keep Preston's outfit his default one when using W.A.T.M and Militarized Minutemen, unless that fixes that and the issue of where the deceased Minutemen you encounter when going up to the Museum Of Freedom isn't.. naked.
Originally posted by JDaremo Fireheart:
Here's a good video on load orders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgRTHNsOWQY
Keep in mind that no two load orders are the same, and that LOOT can not and never will sort every mod. There's just too many.

and this is a guide I roughly follow for my load order.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10844/?
Don't follow what mods to install. That's from 2016 and a lot are out of date or broken. I just use the catagories in Mod Organizer 2. Not sure about Vortex, but MO2 let's you create custom dividers to keep your mods organized.
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If you're using the new 6.0 version of WotM, than Militarized Minutemen isn't compatible.
Too many things have been changed in the latest version of WotM, and MM needs to be updated.
You need to downgrade to WotM v5.2.1 to be able to use Militarized Minutemen.

Other than that, go read the Pinned Duscussion here on how to mod your game right.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/1520386297698187757/

Use LOOT to sort your load order to start with, then check each mod to see if the author has a special place they want their mod in the load order. Right now, your load order is all over the place and you may be missing some patches as well. I personally use Mod Organizer 2 to handle my mods, but it's up to you what you use as long as it isn't the Built In one and you launch the game through the F4SE_Loader.exe.

And this one about F4SE
https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/364039785169337238/
Ah I see, I didn't know about the recent update to W.A.T.M. A shame for it to change so much and.. I know entirely what I'm doing regarding F4SE and Load Order, I just don't understand all the terminology. Not all of it makes sense and which of my mods would go where. I'm not sure how to categorize some of my mods so I feel like I'm on the edge of knowing what to do, but am teetering backwards on knowing absolutely nothing.
Originally posted by Keanu Reeves Club:
Ah I see, I didn't know about the recent update to W.A.T.M. A shame for it to change so much and.. I know entirely what I'm doing regarding F4SE and Load Order, I just don't understand all the terminology. Not all of it makes sense and which of my mods would go where. I'm not sure how to categorize some of my mods so I feel like I'm on the edge of knowing what to do, but am teetering backwards on knowing absolutely nothing.
Yeah, I haven't updated mine yet because I'm waiting for Militarized Minutemen to update first. I love both of those
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
Here's a good video on load orders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgRTHNsOWQY
Keep in mind that no two load orders are the same, and that LOOT can not and never will sort every mod. There's just too many.

and this is a guide I roughly follow for my load order.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10844/?
Don't follow what mods to install. That's from 2016 and a lot are out of date or broken. I just use the catagories in Mod Organizer 2. Not sure about Vortex, but MO2 let's you create custom dividers to keep your mods organized.
Jouchebag Jul 2, 2019 @ 7:18pm 
Originally posted by JDaremo Fireheart:
Keep in mind that no two load orders are the same, and that LOOT can not and never will sort every mod. There's just too many.

If you like eclectic mods and picking from the newest or monthly top group then yeah LOOT might lag behind a bit or simply not care about a mod with ~500 downloads. However, in my case, LOOT has sorted every mod I've ever used and sorted it correctly enough to make a stable game. I only use the most endorsed files from the Nexus, though.
Last edited by Jouchebag; Jul 2, 2019 @ 7:18pm
Thank you for your help. I'll be sure to use these and make my game not have anymore odd problems caused specifically by an improper load order.
JDaremo Fireheart Jul 2, 2019 @ 10:09pm 
Originally posted by Jouchebag:
Originally posted by JDaremo Fireheart:
Keep in mind that no two load orders are the same, and that LOOT can not and never will sort every mod. There's just too many.

If you like eclectic mods and picking from the newest or monthly top group then yeah LOOT might lag behind a bit or simply not care about a mod with ~500 downloads. However, in my case, LOOT has sorted every mod I've ever used and sorted it correctly enough to make a stable game. I only use the most endorsed files from the Nexus, though.
The LOOT Devs rely on player input for the definitions. You also can add your own definitions for mods to have them load where you want them.
LOOT has also sorted almost every mod i've installed, but it doesn't always sort them in the right place. Take AFT for example, it often sorts it high in the L.O. when it should be low in the L.O. and AFT has thousands of downloads.
Jouchebag Jul 2, 2019 @ 10:29pm 
Originally posted by JDaremo Fireheart:
Originally posted by Jouchebag:

If you like eclectic mods and picking from the newest or monthly top group then yeah LOOT might lag behind a bit or simply not care about a mod with ~500 downloads. However, in my case, LOOT has sorted every mod I've ever used and sorted it correctly enough to make a stable game. I only use the most endorsed files from the Nexus, though.
The LOOT Devs rely on player input for the definitions. You also can add your own definitions for mods to have them load where you want them.
LOOT has also sorted almost every mod i've installed, but it doesn't always sort them in the right place. Take AFT for example, it often sorts it high in the L.O. when it should be low in the L.O. and AFT has thousands of downloads.

Hmm I dont use AFT but I do know LOOT ain't perfect. Just really good.
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Date Posted: Jul 2, 2019 @ 6:22pm
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