Gunners Plaza respawning

[Out Of Bubblegum]

So it looks like if I leave the Gunners Plaza area to go lick my wounds, when I get back, everything respawns including all the Gunners. Even after just a few hours away. If I finally clear it all out so that it gets the 'cleared' flag will the Gunners stop instantly respawning? Do I have to kill them all in one go to get it marked cleared? Or am I having a bug?

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Yes, only the leader needs to be killed. But I am not confident that will work in this case. This area seems bugged. I know that players use this location as a way to farm for items like armor and guns for their settlers. So it may always respawn no matter what. But the wiki says that after it is cleared, raiders will be outside the building instead of gunners.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Out Of Bubblegum:

But the wiki says that after it is cleared, raiders will be outside the building instead of gunners.

I dont think I have ever seen raiders outside Gunner's Plaza.

Theoretically the raiders could have been a nearby fluid encounter. Roxbury has multiple random encounter locations. Plus you have more nearby between Somerville and Gunner's Plaza.

Also keep in mind interior and exterior cells have separate respawn timers.

Keep in mind the wiki aint always accurate because there is no fact checking before something gets added. Someone else has to come along call it brahminshit and request it to be removed.

You also may want to review some of your mods to see if they messed with respawn timers.

[Ihateeverybody]

There are certain places that just respawn. Gunner's Plaza. The Car Dealership Just north of Gunner's Plaza. Dartmouth building near Diamond City. Building west of Atom Cats, east of Quincy. Quincy itself. Building South East of Corvega/North of the RR there. Building in South Boston near the Wicked Shipping Truck. Area Near Vault 81 (Diner, Ruined houses). Really too many for me to list. If you play enough you kinda just operate on Auto when approaching them.

Gets even worse when Automatron activates as you get Rust Devils injected into the spawn list and the Other Robots. Makes it hellish sometimes.

Good for legendaries though. Can cycle through the crap drops that much faster.

[Out Of Bubblegum]

That's what I thought. I will have to get to the main boss there somehow to get it 'cleared'. That is going to be very hard for me. I don't do well inside that building. But it will never be really cleared. I still hafta kill everyone once. I will have to do extra preparation. Much more ammo, grenades, stimpacks, etc than normal. Bring some stealth boys.
You are mixing some of the random respawn points with your list of locations that also respawn. Respawn points can spawn any random thing. The Gunners Plaza only respawns the Gunners. Not exactly the same thing.

And I agree with BP. I think the wiki is wrong. I will find out soon.

[spared_life]

The respawn rate seems to vary from new game to new game on many areas. While trying to clear the vault to get Cait cured I tried to go back to Egret to save. Just that small and short trip all kill progress was reset. Did the same in another new play and it was fine.

The Gunners the same one play they reset when saving in Egret another play was okay.

This happened as well with Kellogg.

[spared_life]

Originally posted by Out Of Bubblegum:

Yes, only the leader needs to be killed. But I am not confident that will work in this case. This area seems bugged. I know that players use this location as a way to farm for items like armor and guns for their settlers. So it may always respawn no matter what. But the wiki says that after it is cleared, raiders will be outside the building instead of gunners.

Do you play with a companion? In Gunners I rarely fire a shot.

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Originally posted by spared_life:

Do you play with a companion? In Gunners I rarely fire a shot.

What do you mean? The interior is wall-to-wall gunners. You need to navigate multiple floors. With more than one hallway chokepoint/crossfire 'trap' on the way to the leader. Stealth boys? A maxed stealth build? You can really sneak past them all?

[spared_life]

Originally posted by Out Of Bubblegum:

Originally posted by spared_life:

Do you play with a companion? In Gunners I rarely fire a shot.

What do you mean? The interior is wall-to-wall gunners. You need to navigate multiple floors. With more than one hallway chokepoint/crossfire 'trap' on the way to the leader. Stealth boys? A maxed stealth build? You can really sneak past them all?

You are right you can't sneak by them, don't try. I am a one shot kill most of the game and any explosion even through walls will kill me. Patience and a partner get me through places like Gunner's Plaza. The right companion for the task is a must. I do play with Piper or Nick every now and then when I feel like having a real challenge but that place is a Curie the robot companion place.

Stay crouched and hidden while Curie fights. Your job is to direct Curie where to go. Point Curie to a spot away from you and where they can see her. I usually sneak up to a spot then point her down to the next corner and then sneak back and wait. Take grenades and mines if you want but you can do it without them. If she goes down there is no need to stimpack her as she will recover on her own, of course if you are not playing survival Curie as a companion doesn't really matter. As long as you stay hidden you can work your way through. I did this (little to no firing my gun) the first time just to see how far I could get. I was surprised actually how easy it was, just takes a lot of time.

Curie the robot is my main partner in battles. The others except Codsworth need to be stimpacked every two seconds and getting to them gets you killed.

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Originally posted by spared_life:

I was surprised actually how easy it was,

Now I get it. That is completely opposite to my play style. This game is too easy by default. VATS and immortal companions etc Then there are layers of ways to make it even easier. Perks and legendaries etc etc. I do not want to pwn the game. I want a challenge when I game so I have a huge list of restrictions of what I can't use. I play on survival with no VATS and I make the companions mortal. A mortal companion is like the biggest challenge.