Trudy and her son disappear

[Jakewhistler]

I resolved Order Up peacefully with both Wolfgang and Trudy staying on at Drumlin Diner. On my way somewhere else I stopped by to loot through the things around the diner you're allowed to take. I didn't catch myself quickly enough and "stole" a can from the ground, which I then dropped. Preston and the other NPC's started exchanging fire so I left and waited the usual five days. I went back and there's no Trudy and no Patrick, just Wolfgang and his merc. Console commands with Trudy's refID won't bring her to me, or the other way around. The game says something it's an unknown or invalid Reference ID, It doesn't seem to know who they are. The reference ID I'm using for Trudy is 00106a00 from the fallout.wikia. is this incorrect? Is there something else going on here or something I did wrong?

[JDaremo Fireheart]

load a save prior to that event.
resurrecting a named npc is very very bad JuJu

[ⒸⒶⓁⒸⒾⓊⓂ]

you don't spawn using ref id, you spawn using base id

[Jakewhistler]

Originally posted by Sᴛᴇɪɴᴇʀ:

you don't spawn using ref id, you spawn using base id

Thanks, when I can set my laptop up again I'll try that.

[JDaremo Fireheart]

Originally posted by Jakewhistler:

Originally posted by Sᴛᴇɪɴᴇʀ:

you don't spawn using ref id, you spawn using base id

Thanks, when I can set my laptop up again I'll try that.

I'll say it again, if the Death Script has run then spawning in a Named NPC is Very Bad JuJu. It will eventually corrupt your game saves

[Jakewhistler]

Originally posted by JDaremo Fireheart:

Originally posted by Jakewhistler:

Thanks, when I can set my laptop up again I'll try that.

I'll say it again, if the Death Script has run then spawning in a Named NPC is Very Bad JuJu. It will eventually corrupt your game saves

Usually I use Quicksaves, but I'll make a regular save before I try anything there, reloading after that should clear any problems caused by spawning/resurrrecting NPC's.

[Jakewhistler]

So, Update: I tried using Trudy's BaseID with player.placeatme and she appears but is immediately hostile toward me and Wolfgang. I reloaded my ave and teleported to her with player.moveto but it's just the corner of the Drumlin Diner lot with no Trudy in sight. (I clipped underground too, just in case, nothing there either.)

[pike]

trudy's loss is no big deal , neither is wolfgang's , let her be dead

[jaderive]

And what i've learned by using place at me command is just grabbing a clone, try this with prid " trudys id " without the speech marks then type enable .? see if you get a better trudy and son
or just re load a save before , knowing what might happen ...

[Jakewhistler]

Originally posted by pike:

trudy's loss is no big deal , neither is wolfgang's , let her be dead

Not a big loss, but still someone I can sell stuff to. And I like solving problems. :D

[Jakewhistler]

Originally posted by jaderive:

And what i've learned by using place at me command is just grabbing a clone, try this with prid " trudys id " without the speech marks then type enable .? see if you get a better trudy and son
or just re load a save before , knowing what might happen ...

OK, I tried disable and then enable closing the console after each (enable by itself did nothing). She comes back hostile again, but now her ID (when highlighted in the console) is " " (ff008d99)[PP]". That first set of quotes seems to be part of it. I took a picture FWIW but I can't seem to paste it in.