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then go to The Third Rail in Dimond City.
A Ghoul in combat armor will talk to you about what you did to the guards and start the quest line to get into the asylum.
killing the guards outside the asylum is a prerequisite to start the quest line.
You don't have to kill the guards at all so there is no need to go to the asylum before starting the quest.
seems you are correct. i never met him before going there myself though
He always walked up to me whenever I wanted to talk to Whitechapel Charlie or MacCready. It got annoying really fast.
Just a point to consider, if you cap your Charisma before getting the bobblehead, it will allow you to reach a total of 11 Charisma...