IS 4 GB RAM ENOUGH!?

[FoxTrap]

IS It ENOUGH ? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 4 ANG 8 GB OF RAM IN THIS GAME?

[Incunabulum]

8GB is 4 more GB than 4 GB?

[FoxTrap]

i mean in performance does it matter?

[Chronolord]

It will significantly affect loading times and general performance.

[R.O.T.O.R.]

MINIMUM:
OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
Processor: Intel Core i5-2300 2.8 GHz/AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 GHz or equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti 2GB/AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB or equivalent
Storage: 30 GB available space

what are you other specs

[CloudSeeker]

8 GB RAM is significantly higher in preformance then 4 GB. 16GB is about the max you should go when it comes to RAM. When you got 32 GB you are just throwing money into the ocean really. RAM is short for Random Access Memory. It is used by the computer to store short term stuff that can be accessed fast, it is an essential part for the CPU to function correctly. The more RAM you got the more stuff you can place in fast access memory and not force an application to do the slow method of fetching commonly used stuff.

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I have tested it with both 8gb and 4gb; 4gb averages around: 5fps 8gb: 57. Altough this maynot be completely true, for example the 8gb system has a GTX 1060 yet the 4gb has onboard graphics. I would strongly reccomend 8gb of ram.

[⎠⎝Zushikatetomoto⎠⎝ UFO]

Originally posted by FoxTrap:

i mean in performance does it matter?

I matters trust me on the games tbh 16gb is better then 8gb due to games becoming more and more demanding. 8gb is ok but 16gb is better. Games nowdays benifet more from 16gb but if you had only 4gb, 8gb will help in dual channel. 16gb is going to be the new normal very soon.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

8 GB RAM is significantly higher in preformance then 4 GB. 16GB is about the max you should go when it comes to RAM. When you got 32 GB you are just throwing money into the ocean really. RAM is short for Random Access Memory. It is used by the computer to store short term stuff that can be accessed fast, it is an essential part for the CPU to function correctly. The more RAM you got the more stuff you can place in fast access memory and not force an application to do the slow method of fetching commonly used stuff.

You should just alter this to say "For gaming" as 32gb and 64GB are good for content producers utilizing things like Skylake-X or Threadripper's quad channel memory to improve their production output.

But yeah, 16GB is about as much as anyone will need for gaming for at least the next 3 years. Games are JUST starting to recommend 16GB, which means they actually use closer to 6-8 at the most. And most of these recommendations are overkill because your average PC user has installed every toolbar and malware on the planet, eating up all their processes. You have to remember, recommendations are going to go 8 - 16 - 32 - 64, not 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, etc.

As for OP's question, 4GB IS NOT enough. Fallout 4 averages around 3.7GB usage, and Windows processes are going to eat at least another Gb. You'll be pagefaulting so much, you might expect performance in the teens.

Originally posted by Spektr14:

I have tested it with both 8gb and 4gb; 4gb averages around: 5fps 8gb: 57. Altough this maynot be completely true, for example the 8gb system has a GTX 1060 yet the 4gb has onboard graphics. I would strongly reccomend 8gb of ram.

Your testing is flawed, because on-board graphics is using the RAM as VRAM. That means in comparison, your GTX1060 system has 8+3(or 6 depending on what 1060 model)

Yet your conclusion probably isn't wrong anyway. Fallout 4 will be pagefaulting a lot with only 4GB.

[Yhwach]

With heavily compressed textures, running in a 640x580 resolution, and everything on low, you'll use around 1.4 - 2gb of ram alone so I doubt you'd want that since Integrated cards use onboard memory, and the system uses some as well.

[Yhwach]

Originally posted by ⎠Zushikatetomoto⎝☢ ☠ ☢:

Originally posted by FoxTrap:

i mean in performance does it matter?

I matters trust me on the games tbh 16gb is better then 8gb due to games becoming more and more demanding. 8gb is ok but 16gb is better. Games nowdays benifet more from 16gb but if you had only 4gb, 8gb will help in dual channel. 16gb is going to be the new normal very soon.

Yep, It does.
Just Cause 3 runs A LOT better with 16gb+ of memory, kinda subpar with 8.

[MundM]

There are two factors that will make the game run better or worse with having 4 GB:
1) Do you have 1 or 2 Ram sticks? Because the performance numbers on the RAM are meant for dual channel, meaning you only get half the performance with 1 stick, you must have 2 in dual channel mode in order to have the best performance, a single ram stick WILL slow everything down, even if you had 8gb ram in 1 single stick.
2) You have to check if your software uses the 4 GB or not. If you meet the system requirements in terms of cpu and gpu, and Fallout runs fine, then it's all good, there are a lot of graphic settings you can trim down for very low end hardware. However, if you see your Ram being full as soon as you start the game, then most likely you need more because everytime the Ram is full and the game needs more data, it will write on your hard drive until the Ram can be cleared again, resulting in very noticeable stutters.

Anyway, can it run? Yes, probably with everything low which affects ram like view distance and such. Will it run to your liking? Well, probably only if you are ok with heavy loss in visual fidelity and occasional stutters.

PS Ram Speed and Clocks are always least important then overall Ram size. I've watch so many comparisons in fps on different games with different kinds of Ram, and as long as you are not comparing DDR2 to DDR3 and 4, the fps gain from the top end Ram is usually not worth the extra cost, a sweet spot is always, today, at 16 gb and a middle range speed ram.

[Ceejay]

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

Your testing is flawed, because on-board graphics is using the RAM as VRAM. That means in comparison, your GTX1060 system has 8+3(or 6 depending on what 1060 model)

Up till this point you were right, the 4gb system will actually have less than 4gb as the gpu will be taking some of the memory, however a computer cannot use dedicated vram on a gpu as system ram. so its not 8gb+3gb (or 6) it will still just have 8gb of system ram. Even if you stuck a 12gb vram titan in, the computer would still just have 8gb of system ram.

@op the problem with asking how you are affected is no-one knows how much ram and what programs your running, I have spoke to people who even with 8gb were using nearly 6gb of ram in just background programs, so they also were hammering their page file as they only had 2gb free, so you could actually be out of free memory, before you even run a game.

For intance i am sitting at 1.9gb of used ram in windows, so I have 6gb free, which is fine for this game.

Originally posted by Fane:

Just Cause 3 runs A LOT better with 16gb+ of memory, kinda subpar with 8.

In general yes, though I can run it fine with 8. Again the problem is a lot of people have no clue about opitmizing their pc's and could be running loads of background programs, so they do not have much of their 8gb free, for instance I do not quite hit 8gb running just cause 3, its very close mind you and I do get a warning about low memory when I start the game, but I am running the bare minimum at startup, it would be very easy for me to go over the 8gb, if I went back into my windows startup and let just a couple of programs run.

Though I can see the day coming soon where I will have to upgrade to 16gb, regardless of whatever optimizing I am doing with background programs.

[Crystal Sharrd]

I can run the game fine on an i3 with integrated graphics and 6Gb of RAM, but 4Gb probably isn't enough.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Well I played without issues about a year ago with 4gb dual channel rip jaws, a phenom x6 processor, and a GeForce 650 with 2gb.

The game ran well on low settings and 720p resolution.

I played about 40hrs like that.

[MundM]

Originally posted by sonic65101:

I can run the game fine on an i3 with integrated graphics and 6Gb of RAM, but 4Gb probably isn't enough.

...dude, what do you think your GPU and CPU is getting it's food from? Your GPU and CPU share the same ram, so you overall have even less Ram available then OP, so he should be fine.