How to spend points? S.P.E.C.I.A.L. question. Weight problems...

[Kuruseida]

Which are the best SPECIAL stats to have? I'm currently at Lvl.11
Also, is it worth it to spend my early points not on perks but for leveling the SPECIAL ones? I've put some on Lockpick & Sneak, the other points I used them on SPECIAL.

Oh and I'm struggling with weight, but it's not big deal since I use the companion and that cooked food that grants +25 carry points.

[<< BATFINK >>]

Well, if you look through the Perks table, you will see there are a number of them that require you to have specific levels of you SPECIAL perks. So there is a benefit to leveling them early. I don't level strength that much, since as you say you can use a companion and when you get power armour it increases your capacity.

Apart from that, you might want to give some though about how you want to play and that will tell you what perks you want to chase.

[danconnors]

The lone wanderer perk increases your carry weight by 50 pounds the first 2 times you get it. The strong back perk adds 25 pounds the first 2 times you use it. If weight limit is a big problem for you, I'm assuming you're playing survival mode. In regular mode you ge so much carry weight it should never be a problem. If you use a lot of radstag meat there's a book in sunshine coop that doubles the amount of meat you get from animals you have shot.

[White Knight]

Strength and Endurance will help with the carry weight and your speed while encumbered. The strength related perk you may want is Strong Back. It has about four levels to it but you can fast travel with all your gear at the end.

One other thing I do is save my perk points up. I never waste them on crap I neither want nor need because I know that any time, something cool will open up and I'll wish I had the points for it. In the early game it works even better - can't pick a lock? Just spend some perk points and do it again.

Actually, I'm not sure about the Endurance part? I might have wanted that back when I was freaking about diseases, etc. I don't know, it sounds like it should have something to do with it.

[Kimmaz]

I got 30 lbs of gear when i start, and max carry of 85 lbs, so i can loot about 55 lbs worth of junk ;D I do rely on my companion, and i do very often return to drop off loot at my settlements,, im only lvl 10 atm.

As for special (perks), I started with 1,9,5,1,1,5,6 - (got 10 perception somehow, from a book at the start) Took idiot savant, and the 3 bottom perks in perception, for sniping, vats, and wall shots, and ofc bonus dmg with rifle's and pistols. I plan on taking most perk points (that i find usefull) before taking any aditional main stats.

[Kuruseida]

I feel like I'm wasting points by adding them to Strength & strong back carry, idk... maybe I'll spent 2 on the perk.
Is it okay to spend in Intelligence so I get more XP points ?

[Kimmaz]

Well I think survival is very hard, so I spend most of my perks to boost my combat the first levels. I got 5 endurance, and i still get instantly killed by molotovs and grenades ;S but then again, i only use the vault suit to save weight, with 85 carry capacity, i dont want to spend 40 of them on carrying around armor ;D Im waiting to find/loot pocketed armor pieces

[KennyT]

My English is not very good but i'm just gonna say what i think.
Personally i think the game doesnt really want us to simply kill everything that stand in our way,
so if you want to experience more about the game, like the story of every npc, or every posibility to keep everyone alive in your world, I will go with max charisma, of course if max charisma in the beginning you will have a hard time in combat and everything else.

[Kuruseida]

Originally posted by KennyT:

My English is not very good but i'm just gonna say what i think.
Personally i think the game doesnt really want us to simply kill everything that stand in our way,
so if you want to experience more about the game, like the story of every npc, or every posibility to keep everyone alive in your world, I will go with max charisma, of course if max charisma in the beginning you will have a hard time in combat and everything else.

Never said it was a kill-everything playthrough... that's gonna be in my second one I suppose.

[danconnors]

@Kenny T: If you go with max charisma, at the expense of your combat skills, you are going to be getting killed a lot. You can boost your charisma to 12, but the deathclaw will still have nothing to say, and willl eat you after it kills you. Ditto feral ghouls, blood bugs, sting wings, all the various forms of mirelurks, radscorpions, yua gui, raiders, super mutants and gunners. You won't be able to initiate dialog with any of the above. Which constitute over 95% of the total critters of the Commonwealth.

I have found that the best policy when dealing with the Commonwealth's population is to walk softly and carry a powerful rifle.

[Vexov]

Personally, I go -1 to most things on SPECIAL. I then track down the bobbleheads to the ones i set -1 that i needed. I reduce stats by -1 (1 less then what i actually need for perks) to my stats cause i play on survival. Its so i can have more HP.

Best thing is using a Build Planner. Like: http://www.levelbased.com/guides/fallout-4/tools/special


For a heavy lifter:
- I put 5 in Strength (cause i reduce 1 stats) then get the bobblehead shortly into the game. At 6 strength you can get strong back.

- With 3 charisma you can get Lone Wanderer. I set mine to 5 then do the quest chain to get the bobblehead for local leader. Lone Wanderer doesn't work with followers except the Dog.

- Power Armor. Its up to you if you use or not. Get the upgrade for the legs to carry more. Of course; I put 8 into Int and grab the bobblehead for 9 to unlock: Nuclear Physicist to reduce consumption of cores. This and the bobblehead from Corvega plant mean you only need to carry a few of the cores (cause they a tad heavy on surival). You could easily, with experience or knowledge, go through the whole game without the reduction to consumption and never run out of cores.


Power Armor build: 5, 3, 5, 5, 8, 1, 1. for SPECIAL.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Keep an eye on your carry weight if you're using those Radstag Steaks (+25 Carry)

Not sure how much you value "Balance" but the effects of food can become stuck permanently on survival mod, which can eventually mean you have effectively unlimited carry weight, HP, strength, etc.

Once I had a character I had been rolling for almsot 400hrs, thought I was hot ♥♥♥♥, I kinda was, but we'll get into that. Took almost no damage, figured it was just because my armorz was sooper good.

Then i took a Mininuke right to the face and lost less than 10% HP. Turns out, I had been stacking Mirelurk Queen Steaks (+2END) and had over 8,000HP since I was around level 90 and my END was over 40.

[Kuruseida]

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

Keep an eye on your carry weight if you're using those Radstag Steaks (+25 Carry)

Not sure how much you value "Balance" but the effects of food can become stuck permanently on survival mod, which can eventually mean you have effectively unlimited carry weight, HP, strength, etc.

Once I had a character I had been rolling for almsot 400hrs, thought I was hot ♥♥♥♥, I kinda was, but we'll get into that. Took almost no damage, figured it was just because my armorz was sooper good.

Then i took a Mininuke right to the face and lost less than 10% HP. Turns out, I had been stacking Mirelurk Queen Steaks (+2END) and had over 8,000HP since I was around level 90 and my END was over 40.

WTF ??!!
Endurance 40 points ?? Stacking effects ?

[Tyrant]

Originally posted by Shingatsu:

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

Keep an eye on your carry weight if you're using those Radstag Steaks (+25 Carry)

Not sure how much you value "Balance" but the effects of food can become stuck permanently on survival mod, which can eventually mean you have effectively unlimited carry weight, HP, strength, etc.

Once I had a character I had been rolling for almsot 400hrs, thought I was hot ♥♥♥♥, I kinda was, but we'll get into that. Took almost no damage, figured it was just because my armorz was sooper good.

Then i took a Mininuke right to the face and lost less than 10% HP. Turns out, I had been stacking Mirelurk Queen Steaks (+2END) and had over 8,000HP since I was around level 90 and my END was over 40.

WTF ??!!
Endurance 40 points ?? Stacking effects ? :conwayshrug:

its a bug in the game engine that if you have END buffs when you level up then your level up HP gain is higher then normal but it should revert back to normal after then endurance buff wears off or is refreshed.