Paladin Danse...(spoilers)

[Emogirlee]

So i did the BOS story line and I killed danse because hes a synth but i really like him because hes cool, so i spawned a paladin danse with consol but he would not talk to me! How can i spawn him and get him to be my companion again?

[Yhwach]

May want to put spoiler in the title
And no, you can't.

[The Stranger]

Reload the save or reset the quest.

[Chef]

My understanding is that once you kill him you can't reload him and have him act correctly because the game belives him to be dead ( I read in another thread that there is a death script or something that runs when you kill someone). As far as I know there are only 3 solutions for this.

1. You killed him, hes dead.
2. Don't kill him.
3. Use the mod The Danse Delimma. It gives you some other options for how you want to end that quest. Note: I think you would have to load a save from before you got the quest Blind Betrayal.

[Emogirlee]

UUUHHHHUGGGG!!!! I was looking at my saves and the closest ones are either just out of the vault or right after i killed the railroad... So now I either start over or accept the fact that the only brotherhood of steel companion is dead

[Tyrant]

Originally posted by Emogirlee:

UUUHHHHUGGGG!!!! I was looking at my saves and the closest ones are either just out of the vault or right after i killed the railroad... So now I either start over or accept the fact that the only brotherhood of steel companion is dead

well the story has consequences either you deal with them or you mod them away.
think of it as part of the story, its more emotional if your ''friends'' die when you try and help them or have you question yourself after you killed them.

[Emogirlee]

Originally posted by Tyrant:

Originally posted by Emogirlee:

UUUHHHHUGGGG!!!! I was looking at my saves and the closest ones are either just out of the vault or right after i killed the railroad... So now I either start over or accept the fact that the only brotherhood of steel companion is dead

well the story has consequences either you deal with them or you mod them away.
think of it as part of the story, its more emotional if your ''friends'' die when you try and help them or have you question yourself after you killed them.

Trust me i was very saddend when i had to kill him, him being happy to die made it even more sad. i guess i can just try and get another companion and put them in power armor and stuff but they will never be paladin danse :(

[Tyrant]

Originally posted by Emogirlee:

Originally posted by Tyrant:

well the story has consequences either you deal with them or you mod them away.
think of it as part of the story, its more emotional if your ''friends'' die when you try and help them or have you question yourself after you killed them.

Trust me i was very saddend when i had to kill him, him being happy to die made it even more sad. i guess i can just try and get another companion and put them in power armor and stuff but they will never be paladin danse :(

and this is what good story telling should do.
its a shame there is such a lack of it in alot of todays games.

i too was feeling a bit guilty when i put him down, but then there is the next playthrough.

[Minty]

Originally posted by Emogirlee:

Originally posted by Tyrant:

well the story has consequences either you deal with them or you mod them away.
think of it as part of the story, its more emotional if your ''friends'' die when you try and help them or have you question yourself after you killed them.

Trust me i was very saddend when i had to kill him, him being happy to die made it even more sad. i guess i can just try and get another companion and put them in power armor and stuff but they will never be paladin danse :(

So you roleplay recruiting one of your other companions into the BoS as a replacement/recruit under your command. You set up your BoS settlement with lots of scribes and other recruits walking around. You're a Sentinel at this point, yes? So build your own chapter.

Until you find out they're all synths too. At which point I recommend getting drunk and watching Blade Runner.

[Emogirlee]

Originally posted by Eddie:

Originally posted by Emogirlee:

Trust me i was very saddend when i had to kill him, him being happy to die made it even more sad. i guess i can just try and get another companion and put them in power armor and stuff but they will never be paladin danse :(

So you roleplay recruiting one of your other companions into the BoS as a replacement/recruit under your command. You set up your BoS settlement with lots of scribes and other recruits walking around. You're a Sentinel at this point, yes? So build your own chapter.

Until you find out they're all synths too. At which point I recommend getting drunk and watching Blade Runner.

Yea thats kinda what im doing now lol, i recruted Maccready and gave him power armor, now i just need to get my settlement going and ill be good lol

[Minty]

Originally posted by Emogirlee:

Originally posted by Eddie:

So you roleplay recruiting one of your other companions into the BoS as a replacement/recruit under your command. You set up your BoS settlement with lots of scribes and other recruits walking around. You're a Sentinel at this point, yes? So build your own chapter.

Until you find out they're all synths too. At which point I recommend getting drunk and watching Blade Runner.

Yea thats kinda what im doing now lol, i recruted Maccready and gave him power armor, now i just need to get my settlement going and ill be good lol

See, you've got the right idea. Mac would make a great BoS recruit. Ex-Gunner, merc, tough. Makes sense. He's also one of the few humans you could choose from. Cait might also make a decent knight, but she's pretty rough around the edges. Piper might be a hard sell too.

[AllTheOthersVA]

Try bringing up the console with '~/ ` " or whatever button you have it assigned as, and then typing "player.placeatme 00027683" Thats his base code, if that doesn't work try the same thing but with "0005de4d"

EDIT: heres also another thing. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J9quAMtGK70aptz0t5teqWHGZJ9T9uvJmzNEBJEB36Q/htmlview?sle=true go to this and Ctrl F and type in "companions" paladin danse's code is there to.

[[FuFo] Mortucus]

after playing number 3 as a young man and seeing what the brotherhood has become id rather join My son and wipe them from the face of the earth

the BROTHERHOOD is no better then the Enclave well they are worse because at least the Enclave wernt hipocrits

Dance is like Preston to me shove him aaway in a place i will never see him and leave his ass behind

create you're own in the CK

Originally posted by Eddie:

Originally posted by Emogirlee:

Yea thats kinda what im doing now lol, i recruted Maccready and gave him power armor, now i just need to get my settlement going and ill be good lol

See, you've got the right idea. Mac would make a great BoS recruit. Ex-Gunner, merc, tough. Makes sense. He's also one of the few humans you could choose from. Cait might also make a decent knight, but she's pretty rough around the edges. Piper might be a hard sell too.

Cait is a synth lol

[Minty]

Originally posted by {T.T}Mortucus:

Cait is a synth lol

lol. Just imagine. 1/2 of all companions would either be synths, ghouls or super mutants.

As far as humans go though, her or Mac would be your BoS recruit types. Probably. Not much else kicking around.

[Emogirlee]

Originally posted by liamgeras:

Try bringing up the console with '~/ ` " or whatever button you have it assigned as, and then typing "player.placeatme 00027683" Thats his base code, if that doesn't work try the same thing but with "0005de4d"

EDIT: heres also another thing. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J9quAMtGK70aptz0t5teqWHGZJ9T9uvJmzNEBJEB36Q/htmlview?sle=true go to this and Ctrl F and type in "companions" paladin danse's code is there to.

I tryed that but the Paladin Danse you spawn up cant talk and wont be your companion.

[DrNewcenstein]

Originally posted by Emogirlee:

So i did the BOS story line and I killed danse because hes a synth

So wait, what? You killed him because he's a synth?

Has he demonstrated unswerving loyalty to the Brotherhood of Steel? Has he demonstrated any sort of hostility toward the BoS or any of the Player's allies? Has he demonstrated any sympathies towards the Institute?

But, simply because he was not the original Paladin Danse who sprang forth from the womb of a female human, he's a threat? Maxson is the threat. He's a religious zealot and military dictator.
I'm not saying the Institute is the solution, because they're not, but the synths themselves are not as much of a threat as the leadership of the Institute or the BoS.

So they relpace humans with synths. Was Roger really such a swell guy? No, he was an alcoholic who beat his wife and kid, as his wife and kid tell you. So now they get a new Roger who is responsible and productive. Yes, the Institute's plan is to eliminate the settlement once their seed testing is complete, but that does not happen during the game, and falls into the realm of something the Player can prevent as Director.
On the other hand, the Mayor of Diamond City has aspirations beyond his duties. However, his requests to join the SRB as a proper agent are routinely denied due to his physical condition.

And if you follow a certain side quest, you can get Justin exiled from the Institute, which changes the leadership of the SRB, and alters their priorities.


Regarding the BoS in Fallout 3 - Elder Lyons wanted to help the people rebuild, not just gather up all the tech they were using to defend themselves against daily threats. The Enclave wanted to institute an even harsher military dictatorship led by a computer and eliminate all non-humans, including Ghouls who were Ghouls through no fault of their own, and who, on the whole, posed no threat to the rest of the population. Very few went feral, out of potentially hundreds of thousands just in the Capitol Wasteland. As the Enclave were an offshoot of the remnants of the military, and the military were ultimately responsible for the Ghouls' condition, I find them highly hypocritical, in a Master Race fashion.

The Outcasts wanted to honor the original BoS mission of collecting tech and not contributing to rebuild society. That makes them worthless given the state of the nation.

As for the BoS in New Vegas, there is a branch of their questline where you can have them help defend Hoover Dam alongside the NCR, and you even get a special ending comment for it.