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vic_viperman Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:11pm
So basically the creation club is Bugthesda stealing modders' work?
Am I understanding this correctly? And to further drive a stake through the heart of gaming?
Last edited by vic_viperman; Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:42pm
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Ruin Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:12pm 
Originally posted by vic_viperman:
Am I underrstanding this correctly?

Nope, you're not understanding it correctly... Bethesda comission and pay contributers to the Creation Club who then develop the content for it, that has not been developed in-house by Bethesda, anyway...
Last edited by Ruin; Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:13pm
vic_viperman Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:13pm 
Originally posted by Ruin:
Originally posted by vic_viperman:
Am I underrstanding this correctly?

Nope, you're not understanding it correctly... Bethesda comission and pay contributers to the Creation Club who then develop the content for it, that has not been developed in-house by Bethesda, anyway...
ok... but they are essentially turning all mods into microtransactions. So how much of a cut is Bugthesda getting?
I keep coming across the "steal modders' work" keyword today yet no one actually provide at least one proof towards that statement. so, citation needed
Marshall Bearclaw Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:15pm 
You heard correctly they dowload the mods from Nexus and re-upload them to the creation club...
vic_viperman Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:15pm 
Originally posted by CᴏʙʙʟᴇSᴛᴇɪɴᴇʀ:
I keep coming across the "steal modders' work" keyword today yet no one actually provide at least one proof towards that statement. so, citation needed
I just did. They are monetizing all mods-- all mods are now horse armor microtransactions. How much of a cut is Bugthesda getting?
Ruin Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:16pm 
Originally posted by vic_viperman:
Originally posted by Ruin:

Nope, you're not understanding it correctly... Bethesda comission and pay contributers to the Creation Club who then develop the content for it, that has not been developed in-house by Bethesda, anyway...
ok... but they are essentially turning all mods into microtransactions. So how much of a cut is Bugthesda getting?

Nope... Only those listed on the Creation Club... Bethesda.Net modding and Nexus Mods aren't going anywhere...

Originally posted by CᴏʙʙʟᴇSᴛᴇɪɴᴇʀ:
I keep coming across the "steal modders' work" keyword today yet no one actually provide at least one proof towards that statement. so, citation needed

And you won't get any... It's like any other conspiracy, the lack of proof is all the proof that is needed to prove that the conspiracy is real... Dum-dum-dum....
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Ruin Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:17pm 
Originally posted by vic_viperman:
Originally posted by CᴏʙʙʟᴇSᴛᴇɪɴᴇʀ:
I keep coming across the "steal modders' work" keyword today yet no one actually provide at least one proof towards that statement. so, citation needed
I just did. They are monetizing all mods-- all mods are now horse armor microtransactions. How much of a cut is Bugthesda getting?

Please provide your citation that all mods are being monetised... I am truly interested to see where you got this information from... What official source has confirmed this?
vic_viperman Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:17pm 
Originally posted by Ruin:
Originally posted by vic_viperman:
ok... but they are essentially turning all mods into microtransactions. So how much of a cut is Bugthesda getting?

Nope... Only those listed on the Creation Club... Bethesda.Net modding and Nexus Mods aren't going anywhere...

Originally posted by CᴏʙʙʟᴇSᴛᴇɪɴᴇʀ:
I keep coming across the "steal modders' work" keyword today yet no one actually provide at least one proof towards that statement. so, citation needed

And you won't get any... It's like any other conspiracy, the lack of proof is all the proof that is need to prove that the conspiracy is real... Dum-dum-dum....
I dont think you understand what i am saying. I mentioned the CREATION CLUB specifically. All mods in THE CREATION CLUB are monetized. All mods IN THE CREATION CLUB are now horse armor microtrans. How much of a cut is Bugthesda getting?
Last edited by vic_viperman; Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:18pm
Ruin Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:18pm 
Originally posted by vic_viperman:
Originally posted by Ruin:

Nope... Only those listed on the Creation Club... Bethesda.Net modding and Nexus Mods aren't going anywhere...



And you won't get any... It's like any other conspiracy, the lack of proof is all the proof that is need to prove that the conspiracy is real... Dum-dum-dum....
I dont thin you understand what i am saying. I mentioned the CREATION CLUB specifically.

Yes, but there are OTHER sources for modding... Including Bethesda.Net mods... Only the content comissioned, and curated by Bethesda on the Creation Club will be paid for content...
Last edited by Ruin; Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:18pm
vic_viperman Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:19pm 
Originally posted by Ruin:
Originally posted by vic_viperman:
I dont thin you understand what i am saying. I mentioned the CREATION CLUB specifically.

Yes, but there are OTHER sources for modding... Including Bethesda.Net mods... Only the content comissioned, and curated by Bethesda, on the Creation Club will be paid for content...
Ok so am i worng or not wrong.
vic_viperman Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:20pm 
I dont think you understand what i am saying. I mentioned the CREATION CLUB specifically. All mods in THE CREATION CLUB are monetized. All mods IN THE CREATION CLUB are now horse armor microtrans. How much of a cut is Bugthesda getting?
Ruin Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:22pm 
Originally posted by vic_viperman:
I dont think you understand what i am saying. I mentioned the CREATION CLUB specifically. All mods in THE CREATION CLUB are monetized. All mods IN THE CREATION CLUB are now horse armor microtrans. How much of a cut is Bugthesda getting?

The content in the Creation Club was created for Bethesda, by either Bethesda themselves, or by third-parties paid at Bethesda's own cost...

Their cut doesn't matter as the development of all content on the Creation Club was paid for by Bethesda...

They own it, all of it, and aren't just skimming the cream off modders work, like the Steam Paid Mods fiasco...
Last edited by Ruin; Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:22pm
vic_viperman Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:23pm 
Originally posted by Ruin:
Originally posted by vic_viperman:
I dont think you understand what i am saying. I mentioned the CREATION CLUB specifically. All mods in THE CREATION CLUB are monetized. All mods IN THE CREATION CLUB are now horse armor microtrans. How much of a cut is Bugthesda getting?

The content in the Creation Club was created for Bethesda, by either Bethesda themselves, or by third-parties paid at Bethesda's own cost...

Their cut doesn't matter as the development of all content on the Creation Club was paid for by Bethesda...

They own it, all of it, and aren't just skimming the cream off modders work, like the Steam Paid Mods fiasco...
So how much is bugthesda paying vs their cut? And essentially it seems like now, mods on their creation club are microtransactions, effectively making Fallout 4 and skyrim in the future, the most DLC/microtrans ridden pieces of software on planet earth. This does not sound very appealing.

Also, what is stopping them from saying that the CC is the only way to distribute mods?
Last edited by vic_viperman; Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:26pm
Killzone Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:25pm 
How much is Mcdonalds paying vs their cut?
vic_viperman Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:26pm 
Originally posted by Killzone:
How much is Mcdonalds paying vs their cut?
I don't know, i dont eat there. But I own Bugtheda games and this modding fiasco actually affects me. So your strawman fails.
Last edited by vic_viperman; Aug 28, 2017 @ 10:27pm
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