why the heck is melee and throw grenade the same command?

[Adaman]

Such a weird thing to make them part of the same command/keybind. Trying to throw a grenade is tricky, since I keep swinging my weapon around first. Kinda like making crouch and jump the same key.

[Vyvyvn]

Because console master race and controllers only having 12 buttons.

[WildCat]

hey, at least we can still use mouse to look around

[Nish-Ki]

cause controllers vibrate

[red255]

yeah its because controllers. Economy of buttons on a controller. its pretty stupid yes.

also I shot alot of people as I clicked thru dialog, but I could use a different arrow button or something instead.

would have preferred if people didn't go hostile after I shot them for not talking fast enough.

[WildCat]

Publicado originalmente por red255:

would have preferred if people didn't go hostile after I shot them for not talking fast enough.

Man, i already see Sole Survivor walking around in a T-shirt with a sign on it, "Make it short or get shot"

[Kameraden]

To be honest, grenades shouldn't have a "Hot" key in my opinion. They were more fun to use in the last two Fallout games. In this respect they could of also introduced throwing weapons if grenade mechanics were not a "Hot" key focused weapon.

Fallout 3 and New Vegas you had to equip them and put your gun or knife away to use them. This in turn also allowed you to use them in VATs for some epic slow motion explosive 1980s style fun.

[WildCat]

Talking about slo-mo explosions and stuff, FONV had cinematic camera outside of VATS, kinda miss it in FO4.

[Nish-Ki]

Publicado originalmente por WildCat:

Talking about slo-mo explosions and stuff, FONV had cinematic camera outside of VATS, kinda miss it in FO4.

Ahh like the arrow slow cam in Skyrim, don't know why they did away with it. Probably felt it would slow combat down

[Anvos]

Publicado originalmente por Kameraden:

To be honest, grenades shouldn't have a "Hot" key in my opinion. They were more fun to use in the last two Fallout games. In this respect they could of also introduced throwing weapons if grenade mechanics were not a "Hot" key focused weapon.

Fallout 3 and New Vegas you had to equip them and put your gun or knife away to use them. This in turn also allowed you to use them in VATs for some epic slow motion explosive 1980s style fun.

Main problem is using VATs to throw grenades made it pretty much impossible to miss which was borderline broken.

[Vyvyvn]

Publicado originalmente por Anvos:

Main problem is using VATs to throw grenades made it pretty much impossible to miss which was borderline broken.

Said no one who's ever thrown a grenade in VATS only to have the enemy move behind a wall and the grenade bounce back, Or find that "Invisible wall" over the hole in that wall bounce it back at you.

Personally I like the new system for one reason: Home runs.

Hotkey throw grenade, Mash VATS, Use baseball bat. WIN.

[Astasia]

The PC market is currenty dominating the console market and growing, in a few years with any luck Fallout 5 or 6 is going to be developed for PCs instead of consoles, and console players will have to deal with bad ports not us. Assuming consoles are even still around at that point.

[Kameraden]

Publicado originalmente por Vyvyn Von Crux:

Publicado originalmente por Anvos:

Main problem is using VATs to throw grenades made it pretty much impossible to miss which was borderline broken.

Said no one who's ever thrown a grenade in VATS only to have the enemy move behind a wall and the grenade bounce back, Or find that "Invisible wall" over the hole in that wall bounce it back at you.

Personally I like the new system for one reason: Home runs.

Hotkey throw grenade, Mash VATS, Use baseball bat. WIN.

I know right. VATs grenade throwing in Fallout 3 and New Vegas was pretty much restricted to wide open areas. Otherwise it was insanely unreliable. Fallout 4 I can throw a grenade and have it land almost anywhere I like. Throwing them through windows is easier than ever for example. Getting them right next to cover enemies are hiding behind is also just as easy. Fallout 4 Grenades are multiple times more OP, but honestly less fun in my opinion.

Though I like that Base Ball idea you just mentioned I need to try that now.

[Ratsmacker69]

Publicado originalmente por Preston Gravy:

Because console master race and controllers only having 12 buttons.

necro

[Eminem]

Publicado originalmente por Astasia:

The PC market is currenty dominating the console market and growing, in a few years with any luck Fallout 5 or 6 is going to be developed for PCs instead of consoles, and console players will have to deal with bad ports not us. Assuming consoles are even still around at that point.

Lol. PC is not dominating the console market.

[King Robert Baratheon]

This bugs me to no end. Often when I have grenades equipped (or any handheld explosive) sometimes I can only throw or place them once with the hotkey for explosives and then my character will only start gun/weapon bashing. Then I have to enter my inventory, deselect the explosive, and then re-select it to be able to throw or place it again.