Who's the best faction?

[Prince Jude of Nohr]

Title. I'm curious over what people think are the best faction.

[nineCavalry]

none, they all treat you like a doormat, kill all

[Undying Zombie]

Nguyên văn bởi Rotiart:

Nguyên văn bởi Undying Zombie:

Oh great. So my suspicion of you being a bit out of it is accurate.. Can you please go back to the bridge you came from?

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, check his profile. Guy's a nutter.

That does seem a bit obsessive. But considering how things have been going I do understand that to a point.

I do know there are things from the US Military,Airforce, and Navy that has happened but they are being mute about it and saying things that are not 100% accurate. Of course, that is the norm anyway. I have several connections. A lot of friends there. Used to have family members that served too. I have had a lot of people in my family tree who served one military or another. Be it US, Japan, Germany, Or even UK *MINOR EDIT HERE*( Oh and I forgot the part in my family tree that are connected with the Vikings. But I do not think people care too much to know all the details right? ) *MINOR EDIT OVER* as I found out more recently through my brother's research. The UK connection was something that surprised me as I did not know we had any one from there. )

I normally do not like talking about politics at all with anyone. But since this guy is being talked about and.. How.. Strangely obsessive he is.. I will say I am more Conservative than most other things. Though I do have views that are considered Libertarian ( more Libertarian than others. Oh and of course the US connection also includes Native American.. Specifically Apache. It is a more recent part as I have more of that in my percentages bloodline wise. Same with German, Japanese, and I believe Irish, but not 100% sure on the Irish part due to how that person was. ) , as well as views on the Democratic side, and a few Liberal views as well. ( Personally I feel anyone on the extreme either way tend to do more damage than good most of the time.. But that is just my opinion so its nothing more than that. )

Back to the main conversation.

Nguyên văn bởi "The Hitman Hart":

Minutemen+Institute.

You are Kellog+Father+Leader of the minutemen.

This faction combination has the most potential.

Minutemen alone is just like Ceasars legion. It will fail when Nate/Nora dies. A repeat of quincy.

This I actually agree with. Those two factions combined would be a lot better than either one alone. It is also true that those factions would die out without a specific leader due to how they are setup... Institute are the only ones that would keep on going. Even the Railroad would fall apart without specific people being around I feel. ( They where already being wrecked when you join them... and it was getting worse as time went on since they where getting attacked left and right.. Losing a LOT of people. The institute and other groups where really slamming into them.. This includes the Super Mutants and a few other factions out there. )

Heck the specific chapter of the Brotherhood of Steel.. I do not think would survive without their current leader. Though originally either you or the person that could become your companion could become leader in the cut content.. ( However one of those requires a lot of convincing, and you know why if you played through the storyline for them in the game. )

Really wished they finished said content and put it into the game.. I think it would had been a lot more fun and interesting personally... Oh well.

[The Inept European]

Nguyên văn bởi Wafflemeister:

Depends on your personal opinion

WRONG! Depends on MY personal opinion. XD

(Hey, if you're gonna necro, necro like a boss - necro post #1 in the thread.)

[Undying Zombie]

Nguyên văn bởi "The Hitman Hart":

Nguyên văn bởi Undying Zombie:

That does seem a bit obsessive. But considering how things have been going I do understand that to a point.

I do know there are things from the US Military,Airforce, and Navy that has happened but they are being mute about it and saying things that are not 100% accurate. Of course, that is the norm anyway. I have several connections. A lot of friends there. Used to have family members that served too. I have had a lot of people in my family tree who served one military or another. Be it US, Japan, Germany, Or even UK *MINOR EDIT HERE*( Oh and I forgot the part in my family tree that are connected with the Vikings. But I do not think people care too much to know all the details right? ) *MINOR EDIT OVER* as I found out more recently through my brother's research. The UK connection was something that surprised me as I did not know we had any one from there. )

I normally do not like talking about politics at all with anyone. But since this guy is being talked about and.. How.. Strangely obsessive he is.. I will say I am more Conservative than most other things. Though I do have views that are considered Libertarian ( more Libertarian than others. Oh and of course the US connection also includes Native American.. Specifically Apache. It is a more recent part as I have more of that in my percentages bloodline wise. Same with German, Japanese, and I believe Irish, but not 100% sure on the Irish part due to how that person was. ) , as well as views on the Democratic side, and a few Liberal views as well. ( Personally I feel anyone on the extreme either way tend to do more damage than good most of the time.. But that is just my opinion so its nothing more than that. )

Back to the main conversation.

This I actually agree with. Those two factions combined would be a lot better than either one alone. It is also true that those factions would die out without a specific leader due to how they are setup... Institute are the only ones that would keep on going. Even the Railroad would fall apart without specific people being around I feel. ( They where already being wrecked when you join them... and it was getting worse as time went on since they where getting attacked left and right.. Losing a LOT of people. The institute and other groups where really slamming into them.. This includes the Super Mutants and a few other factions out there. )

Heck the specific chapter of the Brotherhood of Steel.. I do not think would survive without their current leader. Though originally either you or the person that could become your companion could become leader in the cut content.. ( However one of those requires a lot of convincing, and you know why if you played through the storyline for them in the game. )

Really wished they finished said content and put it into the game.. I think it would had been a lot more fun and interesting personally... Oh well.

It would cause a Civil war if Danse was put in charge. BoS has been too far too heavy anti synth for years.

I am talking about that specific chapter. And in what was released info was about the cut content. That was one of the possibilities. Even though Danse is a synth ( there is also a possibility that you are a synth but I wont go into that. ) if you payed attention even in the non cut content a lot of them are not quite anti synth as you put it. Its mostly the current leader that is what way. There are a few that are that way but not as much. Now almost all of them are anti Mutant though. ( Including Danse ) Anti Ghoul seems that they might be the majority but its kinda strange on that one. But regardless that particular chapter of the Brotherhood of Steel was kicked out due to their leader's way of doing things. So tech speaking they are not actually part of the Brotherhood of Steel despite the fact that they still call; themselves that. ( Well, sort of kicked out and sort of them leaving as well due to the mutual dislike and difference in opinion. )

It is also easy for them to keep the fact that Danse is a synth underwraps from most of the members of the faction. Its something that is very hard to detect and it was only found out as is due to information found in the Institutes databases. ( Something that also tends to be ignored is that they have removed some information on their databases in the past to hide things even from their own members. Such as things about "Father" as well as your character. It did hint that a lot of that information surrounded Kellog and his doings.

[Mere-Homi-Cidal]

The BOS must always be seen as the invader who believes that it is the policeman of the world, (where have we heard that one before) they and only they believe power belongs to them and so they have the right to poke their nose in where it doesn't belong.
The railroad is no more than a bunch of fools (and where do they get their memories from if not from other people) who are led by what, a robot who tells you not to believe a word of what it says. (it's unreliable)
The minutemen who you become the leader of or in truth the lackey for a totally inadequate fool, are a bunch of useless loons trying to relive a best forgotten past.
The institute is where you once again get put in charge with no power to right the wrongs, in short this game is the perfect mirror image of the known world so get a life and kill them all.

[Undying Zombie]

Nguyên văn bởi Mere-Homi-Cidal:

The BOS must always be seen as the invader who believes that it is the policeman of the world, (where have we heard that one before) they and only they believe power belongs to them and so they have the right to poke their nose in where it doesn't belong.
The railroad is no more than a bunch of fools (and where do they get their memories from if not from other people) who are led by what, a robot who tells you not to believe a word of what it says. (it's unreliable)
The minutemen who you become the leader of or in truth the lackey for a totally inadequate fool, are a bunch of useless loons trying to relive a best forgotten past.
The institute is where you once again get put in charge with no power to right the wrongs, in short this game is the perfect mirror image of the known world so get a life and kill them all.

Oh yes the double standard that a lot of countries put up after they begged for a specific nation to help and do things. Gotta love how two faced a lot of people are... and I know a LOT about that stuff since the nation I was originally from.. They have a saying. "Everyone wears several masks." Though I understand the original meaning. It can also be used to fit the whole two faced part of how people some people tend to be.

But that is a WHOLE different topic.

That said I can understand why you have said some of the things you have said but I do not fully agree with them. There are differences. But there are always some sort of difference when it comes to these things.

Nguyên văn bởi Imbir777:

the guy who necroed this thread is the real villian

Lol

[Nikusui 😗]

Nguyên văn bởi "The Hitman Hart":

It would cause a Civil war if Danse was put in charge. BoS has been too far too heavy anti synth for years.

If only what hitman mentioned was in the game, that would have been such an epic moment in BoS questline. Bummer.

[Undying Zombie]

Nguyên văn bởi "The Hitman Hart":

Nguyên văn bởi Undying Zombie:

I am talking about that specific chapter. And in what was released info was about the cut content. That was one of the possibilities. Even though Danse is a synth ( there is also a possibility that you are a synth but I wont go into that. ) if you payed attention even in the non cut content a lot of them are not quite anti synth as you put it. Its mostly the current leader that is what way. There are a few that are that way but not as much. Now almost all of them are anti Mutant though. ( Including Danse ) Anti Ghoul seems that they might be the majority but its kinda strange on that one. But regardless that particular chapter of the Brotherhood of Steel was kicked out due to their leader's way of doing things. So tech speaking they are not actually part of the Brotherhood of Steel despite the fact that they still call; themselves that. ( Well, sort of kicked out and sort of them leaving as well due to the mutual dislike and difference in opinion. )

It is also easy for them to keep the fact that Danse is a synth underwraps from most of the members of the faction. Its something that is very hard to detect and it was only found out as is due to information found in the Institutes databases. ( Something that also tends to be ignored is that they have removed some information on their databases in the past to hide things even from their own members. Such as things about "Father" as well as your character. It did hint that a lot of that information surrounded Kellog and his doings.

That has been debunked YEARS ago. The main character is not a synth. It doesn't make a lick of sense. You are the backup. There was no need for the old institute leader to have a synth as the "backup" as Kellog says. I can't believe people are still typing about that crap. It creates far more plotholes than anything I have ever seen. Father only unfroze you to see if you would find him. It was his game. Father putting a synth Parent in control of the institute doesn't make a any sense.

Do you really think the other scientist wouldn't have been smart enough to figure out you are a synth or even some top railroad members???? It would never fly. People talk about how this game has ♥♥♥♥ writing but the whole SS might be a synth makes the writing even more ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Cut content is just that....cut content. I have played it 2 or 3 years ago. If you bring in the Fallout New Vegas cut content that game is also now completely different.

Nothing you just said changes the point that Having a synth leader would divide the BOS apart sooner or later.

Whoa dude. Calm down a bit will you? I mean seriously you are going to end up harming yourself at that rate. I said possibility, and believe it or not if you honestly look at things instead of going off like you are, there is still a possibility.. and with all you blew up with.. YES. IT IS A POSSIBILITY! You forget how hard it is for synth infiltrators to be detected. It is nearly impossible. The only times they tend to be found is due to a information leak. Or kill them. ( Even then its not always possible to determine for sure in some of the newer models as what was mentioned by the Institute. The only reason why they know is due to the data they kept on said synth. Though I always found it strange that they never built in trackers that cant be taken out unless you kill them. But that is a fully different subject. ) So without that not a single one of the people outside of the Institute would know anything. Heck there is even a character who is killing people via a very terrible test that was created to try and find synths. ( That part is also a parody of a few things that has happened in the worlds history. )

Just because your fav youttuber "debunked" it does not mean its not a possibility. Most of those people do not look at everything in the first place. Its something I am kind of sick about. People who do not do their due diligence when it comes to researching anything... It is also one of my major problems with education systems in almost all places of the world.

[Big Moustache]

And this is one of the reasons why necromancy is a forbidden art

[The Inept European]

Maxson: "Kill everyone in the Brotherhood, anyone who turns out not to be a synth gets promoted."
Everyone else: "Ah, sir..."

[The Inept European]

Nguyên văn bởi Fragoos:

And this is one of the reasons why necromancy is a forbidden art

Truly said.

[Straybow]

"Kill the mutant, crush the Necromancer" Arthur Maxson 2287
Sensible policies for a happier wasteland :)

[Undying Zombie]

Nguyên văn bởi "The Hitman Hart":

Nguyên văn bởi Undying Zombie:

Whoa dude. Calm down a bit will you? I mean seriously you are going to end up harming yourself at that rate. I said possibility, and believe it or not if you honestly look at things instead of going off like you are, there is still a possibility.. and with all you blew up with.. YES. IT IS A POSSIBILITY! You forget how hard it is for synth infiltrators to be detected. It is nearly impossible. The only times they tend to be found is due to a information leak. Or kill them. ( Even then its not always possible to determine for sure in some of the newer models as what was mentioned by the Institute. The only reason why they know is due to the data they kept on said synth. Though I always found it strange that they never built in trackers that cant be taken out unless you kill them. But that is a fully different subject. ) So without that not a single one of the people outside of the Institute would know anything. Heck there is even a character who is killing people via a very terrible test that was created to try and find synths. ( That part is also a parody of a few things that has happened in the worlds history. )

Just because your fav youttuber "debunked" it does not mean its not a possibility. Most of those people do not look at everything in the first place. Its something I am kind of sick about. People who do not do their due diligence when it comes to researching anything... It is also one of my major problems with education systems in almost all places of the world.

No I won't. Nothing gets me more steamed up than the whole SS is a synth thing. It's absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ retarded. The very idea ruining multiple anti synth playthroughs I have pumped HUNDREDS of hours into.

There is no possibility that the SS is a synth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have no favorite youtuber that debunked it. So stop making an ass out of yourself by assuming ♥♥♥♥. This has been debunked on multiple Fallout 4 forums. Even here. I pretty sure I remember posters like Douglas talking about it years ago.

You are going to have a big heart attack at some point if you keep that up.. And like I said I do not care what person who cant look at everything and fully research stuff comes to a conclusion to since it would be heavily flawed. I also dislike dealing with people with low IQ but sadly that is the average person. ( I am not saying you are for sure one of them. I am just saying the fact that I personally dislike dealing with them. But sadly you have to since there is no way in avoiding it. Well unless I want to become some sort of hermit somewhere and I have no plans on that. )

[trey]

If you can target people through walls, well...you might not be a synth but you're definitely not human.

The SS is a synth though.

[Mere-Homi-Cidal]

Nguyên văn bởi "The Hitman Hart":

Nguyên văn bởi Undying Zombie:

You are going to have a big heart attack at some point if you keep that up.. And like I said I do not care what person who cant look at everything and fully research stuff comes to a conclusion to since it would be heavily flawed. I also dislike dealing with people with low IQ but sadly that is the average person. ( I am not saying you are for sure one of them. I am just saying the fact that I personally dislike dealing with them. But sadly you have to since there is no way in avoiding it. Well unless I want to become some sort of hermit somewhere and I have no plans on that. )

Main character is not a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ synth. End of discussion.

Not even just a little bit ?