how much do you think power armor weighs?

[Boil]

I am not talking about the in game inventory values, I am talking about realistic weight values. It sounds pretty darn heavy when you jump and land with it. All of that metal shielding, hydraulics, the skeleton... should weigh atleast a few hundred KGs?

[MaximumEffort]

Half a ton aprox

[Vinnie Mack]

Originally posted by sjrekis:

Half a ton aprox

at least. The fact that you enter it like a vehicle suggests a lot of weight. It is like a small car.

[MaximumEffort]

Originally posted by Vinnie Mack:

Originally posted by sjrekis:

Half a ton aprox

at least. The fact that you enter it like a vehicle suggests a lot of weight. It is like a small car.

A lot of cars weight is rubber, plastic, glass and cloth. You'de be surpised how little the metal actually weighs

[Hobo Misanthropus]

The armor itself (The plating) is probably quite light (Comparable to heavy plate armor), the heavy bit would be the frame itself.

I'd say at least 200KG for the frame. It can't be too heavy, because there is a point of diminishing returns when you are trying to power something. It's a balancing act between the power required to move itself and load, versus the weight of the powerplant and servos.

[Boil]

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

The armor itself (The plating) is probably quite light (Comparable to heavy plate armor), the heavy bit would be the frame itself.

I'd say at least 200KG for the frame. It can't be too heavy, because there is a point of diminishing returns when you are trying to power something. It's a balancing act between the power required to move itself and load, versus the weight of the powerplant and servos.

power armor can withstand multiple hits from heavy caliber sniper rifles in one spot, if you look at our current day equivalent armor plates that can even withstand only 1 hit from such rifles, the metal plating gets really really heavy. I mean, it doesnt look like the shell is made out of light kevlar, right?

A cubic foot of aluminum, which is a very light metal already weighs 75kgs and that is aluminum, which is a very bad metal to use for armor plates, the metal alloys used in the metal plating of power armor are likely 2-4 times heavier than aluminum per cubic foot.

plus all the systems, inner frame, hydraulics, joints... this thing easily tops half a ton, with the majority of its weight coming from the really strong metal shielding.

[Vinnie Mack]

Originally posted by Mad Doge:

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

The armor itself (The plating) is probably quite light (Comparable to heavy plate armor), the heavy bit would be the frame itself.

I'd say at least 200KG for the frame. It can't be too heavy, because there is a point of diminishing returns when you are trying to power something. It's a balancing act between the power required to move itself and load, versus the weight of the powerplant and servos.

power armor can withstand multiple hits from heavy caliber sniper rifles in one spot, if you look at our current day equivalent armor plates that can even withstand only 1 hit from such rifles, the metal plating gets really really heavy. I mean, it doesnt look like the shell is made out of light kevlar, right?

A cubic foot of aluminum, which is a very light metal already weighs 75kgs and that is aluminum, which is a very bad metal to use for armor plates, the metal alloys used in the metal plating of power armor are likely 2-4 times heavier than aluminum per cubic foot.

plus all the systems, inner frame, hydraulics, joints... this thing easily tops half a ton, with the majority of its weight coming from the really strong metal shielding.

i would imagine that there would be parts of the armor with lighter plating (crotch area between the legs, under the arms, etc.), but even then it would weigh about half a ton like sjerkis suggested.

[Yhwach]

It costs aluminum to strengthen and add misc mods to the power armor, that means if you wrap yourself in aluminum foil in real life, you'll have power armor.

[Incunabulum]

Originally posted by Mad Doge:

I am not talking about the in game inventory values, I am talking about realistic weight values. It sounds pretty darn heavy when you jump and land with it. All of that metal shielding, hydraulics, the skeleton... should weigh atleast a few hundred KGs?

500-750 pounds wet - not including operator and his personal gear or weapons.

[Boil]

Originally posted by Incunabulum:

Originally posted by Mad Doge:

I am not talking about the in game inventory values, I am talking about realistic weight values. It sounds pretty darn heavy when you jump and land with it. All of that metal shielding, hydraulics, the skeleton... should weigh atleast a few hundred KGs?

500-750 pounds wet - not including operator and his personal gear or weapons.

have you seen fallout 4 power armor? The lightest smart car (one of the lightest and smallest commercial cars) weighs 800kgs (~1750lbs).

Power armor has very heavy metal plating which withstands heavy sniper rifle fire, thats no aluminum. It easily tops 500kgs (~1100lbs)

[Void#151625]

min 1-2 tons if not as much and more then an 5 elephants! but then again cant be simple steal fram if we take it relasitic
if we would be realistic the power armour would implode due to its own weight.
since it weighs more then the material can handle simple as that.
if we want to be realistic with it!
you woudl need a super strong and super light material that has extrem high breaking point to even build it so it can move without imploding under its own weight.
thats why steal frame is just a joke due to its low breaking point.


cause a power armour would be like a house trying to jump up and down without crashing on its own to pieces becuase of its own weight.

aluminium is light but brittle and would break fast because of all the bullets
steal is to heavy and you would not be able to make it move and nearly crush in it self due to own weight.
you kinda would need a synthetic carbon aluminium mix material that is strentghend on a molecular level to both be resilient and light weight at the same time.

[red255]

its made of steel (see repairs) its taller than a person.

we can assume how thick the armor is +servos. the power supply is a small self contained fusion battery core on the back.

so we could calculate volume. pretty simple, lets say is 8 feet tall. made of steel and hollow inside to fit a man.

Gut says around half a ton yeah, leaning toward 800 lbs.

Void its made of steel, steel wouldn't break. under its own weight, might break jumping off buildings.

suits of armor were made of steel, they didn't break. you can't just say its not steel without something. because its steel, its obviously steel, and steel would be fine. because we used steel for ages.

Tanks are made of steel and they don't break under their own weight.

[Boil]

Originally posted by red255:

its made of steel (see repairs) its taller than a person.

we can assume how thick the armor is +servos. the power supply is a small self contained fusion battery core on the back.

so we could calculate volume. pretty simple, lets say is 8 feet tall. made of steel and hollow inside to fit a man.

Gut says around half a ton yeah, leaning toward 800 lbs.

Void its made of steel, steel wouldn't break. under its own weight, might break jumping off buildings.

suits of armor were made of steel, they didn't break. you can't just say its not steel without something. because its steel, its obviously steel, and steel would be fine. because we used steel for ages.

Tanks are made of steel and they don't break under their own weight.

realistically speaking, there is a lot of different types of steel, 5mm of one type can be pierced by a 9mm round, the other not, one is heavier, one is lighter, we dont know which one power armor is made of. BUT, power armor can withstand a direct hit from a .50cal sniper rifle, that type of steel is very, very dense and heavy. Power armor is a few cm thick in some areas. Full suit is well over 500KG.

[MortVent]

Originally posted by red255:

its made of steel (see repairs) its taller than a person.

we can assume how thick the armor is +servos. the power supply is a small self contained fusion battery core on the back.

so we could calculate volume. pretty simple, lets say is 8 feet tall. made of steel and hollow inside to fit a man.

Gut says around half a ton yeah, leaning toward 800 lbs.

Void its made of steel, steel wouldn't break. under its own weight, might break jumping off buildings.

suits of armor were made of steel, they didn't break. you can't just say its not steel without something. because its steel, its obviously steel, and steel would be fine. because we used steel for ages.

Tanks are made of steel and they don't break under their own weight.

not to mention it's actually alloy of steel, hence the other materials needed for upgrades/repairs. It's also designed looking at the frame with reinforcements for weight (much like car bodies have reinforced frames to handle the weight...same as tractor trailers and bridges)

Plus we already have working prototypes of power armor in development stages (exoskeletons and the like)

[PewPewsAlote]

Originally posted by Void#151625:

min 1-2 tons if not as much and more then an 5 elephants! but then again cant be simple steal fram if we take it relasitic
if we would be realistic the power armour would implode due to its own weight.
since it weighs more then the material can handle simple as that.
if we want to be realistic with it!
you woudl need a super strong and super light material that has extrem high breaking point to even build it so it can move without imploding under its own weight.
thats why steal frame is just a joke due to its low breaking point.


cause a power armour would be like a house trying to jump up and down without crashing on its own to pieces becuase of its own weight.

aluminium is light but brittle and would break fast because of all the bullets
steal is to heavy and you would not be able to make it move and nearly crush in it self due to own weight.
you kinda would need a synthetic carbon aluminium mix material that is strentghend on a molecular level to both be resilient and light weight at the same time.

First of all, a steel frame would be WAY more than enough for a suit like the power armor in fallout 4. Steel has a tensile strength of 30000 PSI thats 15 tons per square inch before it breaks. there is ABSOLUTELY NO CONCERN about weight. Hell, a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ car is made out of weaker materials and they weigh on average 3-5 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tons. This comment of yours genuinely triggered me because it was so uneducated, your spelling was all wrong. And as one of the other guys said, the only real problem would be energy to weight ratio. Making it energy efficient. Because these were created in the future we are gonna say that they decided to make them out of very efficient advanced materials. Such as a carbon fiber frame. Carbon fiber is VERY light weight and currently manufactured today (So they might even use something more advanced, like carbon nano tubes or something we dont have today) Carbon fibers have a WOPPING tensile strength of eight hundred ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thousand PSI. That's four hundred tons per square inch and because it is very light, energy would likely not be a problem. But considering (how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fast you run out of energy from FUSION CORES) we probly can assume that the power armors use a steel frame. Its energy inefficient but its powerful.

[Solomon Hawk]

Not being able to move the PA frame (without being in it) should tall you something.