Is Big boy Deacon the lone wanderer?

[Joel]

I bloody hope not. I mean i suppose they share similar traits but it just seems unlikely in my opinion. Besides if deacon was dont you think he would have OP armor and weapons instead of what he has now?

[キールス]

Deacon is actually a clone of the Vault Dweller created by the NCR. It escaped from the lab and was chased by an ncr ranger and a brotherhood chronicler/historian that goes by the name "Story Teller".

[Yhwach]

Totally false, The Storyteller is trying to cover up the fact that Dogmeat is The Vault Dweller.

[キールス]

Originally posted by Gintoki:

Totally false, The Storyteller is trying to cover up the fact that Dogmeat is The Vault Dweller.

Ssshhh.

That was supposed to be a secret.

[Charlemagne]

Dogmeat is truly a clone. HE appears in every Fallout, and in all of them invariably has the "Doorway Obstruction" perk.

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yep the dog's like the floating sckul in torment he's there for all your incarnations , there's tattoo on the players back that warn's you about him ..but you never seen it

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by nd:

duno but he watchers you when you get to diamond city in a guard outfit next to danny

Caught him at Bunker Hill too as a "Caravan worker" in one of his disquises. had the same voice actor and everything.

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by Charlemagne:

Originally posted by watchdog79:

Was the Lone Wanderer an Institute Synth, no matter if loyal or runaway? You see, Deacon is a Synth and the only producer of Synths is the Institute.

He's not. If you pass a charisma test he admits it's a lie, and the paper he gives you just has an advice, not a recall code.

He doesn't say he's NOT a synth. He just says thats not his recall code. He basically just gave it to The Lone Wanderer as a test to see if he'd betray him.

[Joel]

Originally posted by KrayToast:

Originally posted by Charlemagne:

He's not. If you pass a charisma test he admits it's a lie, and the paper he gives you just has an advice, not a recall code.

He doesn't say he's NOT a synth. He just says thats not his recall code. He basically just gave it to The Lone Wanderer as a test to see if he'd betray him.

but a bullet in his brain and theres no synth component.

[Talion]

What ? The guy at fallout 3 ?

[Charlemagne]

Originally posted by KrayToast:

Originally posted by Charlemagne:

He's not. If you pass a charisma test he admits it's a lie, and the paper he gives you just has an advice, not a recall code.

He doesn't say he's NOT a synth. He just says thats not his recall code. He basically just gave it to The Lone Wanderer as a test to see if he'd betray him.

Well, technically he doesn't spell it out, but in context it is understood he was only pulling your leg.

[zafire063]

Only theory I have is Deacon is a Ninja and has learned the Kage Bunshin no Jutsu.

You can blow his head off in Diamond City. You can blow his head off in Goodneighbor. Maybe you can proc Bloody Mess in bunker hill and take each piece of him to a different corner of the commonwealth. And even if you kill him in all three places (Why would he be alive a 2nd and 3rd time, anyway..?)....When you go to the railroad for the first time, he's still there, alive and well.

[Charlemagne]

Originally posted by zafire063:

Only theory I have is Deacon is a Ninja and has learned the Kage Bunshin no Jutsu.

You can blow his head off in Diamond City. You can blow his head off in Goodneighbor. Maybe you can proc Bloody Mess in bunker hill and take each piece of him to a different corner of the commonwealth. And even if you kill him in all three places (Why would he be alive a 2nd and 3rd time, anyway..?)....When you go to the railroad for the first time, he's still there, alive and well.

Well this doesn't make him a synth. Synths only die once. It's an oversight by Beth, perhaps because the Deacons you see loafing around in towns are not technically "the" real Deacon in the game files. Having Deacon die before the whole Railroad thing happens including the main quest as it intersects with the RR would break the game. However, making the Deacon doppleganger in towns immortal would also complicate things a lot. Maybe there was no clear-cut solution, other than not make him appear in towns before you go to the RR. Seeing him in towns is hardly essential to the game as he has minimal dialogue and in your first playthorugh you don't even know who he is. If they were even aware of the problem, they probably figured 99.99% of players would NOT kill the undercover "pre-Deacons" before meeting the real thing.

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by Charlemagne:

Originally posted by zafire063:

Only theory I have is Deacon is a Ninja and has learned the Kage Bunshin no Jutsu.

You can blow his head off in Diamond City. You can blow his head off in Goodneighbor. Maybe you can proc Bloody Mess in bunker hill and take each piece of him to a different corner of the commonwealth. And even if you kill him in all three places (Why would he be alive a 2nd and 3rd time, anyway..?)....When you go to the railroad for the first time, he's still there, alive and well.

Well this doesn't make him a synth. Synths only die once. It's an oversight by Beth, perhaps because the Deacons you see loafing around in towns are not technically "the" real Deacon in the game files. Having Deacon die before the whole Railroad thing happens including the main quest as it intersects with the RR would break the game. However, making the Deacon doppleganger in towns immortal would also complicate things a lot. Maybe there was no clear-cut solution, other than not make him appear in towns before you go to the RR. Seeing him in towns is hardly essential to the game as he has minimal dialogue and in your first playthorugh you don't even know who he is. If they were even aware of the problem, they probably figured 99.99% of players would NOT kill the undercover "pre-Deacons" before meeting the real thing.

now, We dont exackly know the extent of Synth "life"spans. The most we know is that their processing consieous can be uploaded into a new body. For all we know Synths can "die" and still live. if you pull their processing brains out of the destroyed bodies and implant it into a new body.

Kind of like taking your hardrive out of one computer and putting it into another.

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they have a powerplug hole in the butt butt

[Charlemagne]

Too bad youo can't kill yourself and check the remains to see if you have a synth component! 8*}