What Became Of Project Purity?

[danconnors]

One reason I have no problem with the Aqua boy/girl perk is that it shouldn't be needed anyway. This adventure takes place at about the same time as James is perfecting Project Purity in DC. The aim of Purity is to make ALL the water in the region nonradioactive.

You know it's the same time frame after talking to the acting head of Synth Retention in the Institute and finding out whose place he took. The Institute guy you killed in Fallout 3 to save the runaway courser (and get his weapon).

Project Purity suceeded in DC, apparently by way of the GECK (garden of eden creation kit (results may vary)). The GECK is apparently the size of a suitcase and able to be mass produced. All vaults were originally supposed to be equipped with one.

If it worked in DC it should work elsewhere. I know radioactive water was done away with in New Vegas (mostly), but in the Commonwealth, just a hop, skip, and a jump from DC, the water still sucks. Disregarding the fact that water is not still going to be radioactive 210 years after a nuclear war, it should still be potable and swimmable because a GECK should have cleaned it up by now.

[Xyzzy]

Yes but Perk gives you Gills.

[Saph]

You're assuming that every vault being supposedly in possession of one means that the residents were aware of it, knew how to use it to terraform the post-apocalyptic world and lived long enough to do so. This has been shown in every game in the series to date to not be the case. The majority of known vaults failed for one reason or another. Usually only one or two are still in operation within a region indicating a massive fail rate.

The vaults we do see still in use usually have more pressing concerns to worry about too, dwindling population & genetic diversity, broken water purification systems, finding runaway/kidnapped family members, etc. Vault-Tec's top brass were the only ones initially in possession of the information regarding the GECK and out of all of them, only one has been shown to be still alive. Braun, who was more satisfied with his twisted simulations than saving the world. In fact, the ones to realise the potential of the GECK in 3 weren't even really residents of a vault to begin with.

Then we have Project Purity, an isolated success currently limited to the DC area. Nowhere in the events of FO3 or 4 has it been stated that the project's effects have reached as far north as the Commonwealth and given the state of affairs in 4 it's safe to surmise that they haven't yet. One could even speculate that during Maxxon's rise to power the project may have been lost or damaged.

At this point its current status is down to pure speculation due to limited available information.

[danconnors]

Funny, since the rad storms are cooked up in a nuclear bomb crater and DC was nuked as thoroughly as the Comonwealth. As for the gills, see Kevin Costner in Waterworld. I can do without them too. In New Vegas if you made the Boomers happy they gave you a set of diving gear where you could do just about anything under water.

[danconnors]

Several GECKS have been used. In Fallout 2 Vault City had used theirs. You located another in your role as hero of the village of Arroyo, and it too was used. The original vault in Fallout one probably had one, but they only had one water chip. Another vault you found had hundreds of water chips.

So, that's running about one third of the vaults had a GECK. If you know your Fallout 2, you remember the opening scene showed a group of vault dwellers watching a training flick explaining what the GECK did, and, most likely, how to use it. As I count it there are more than 3 vaults in the Commonwealth area, meaning one should have had a GECK. That was used.

So, the water should be good.

[zafire063]

How is it a hop, skip, and a jump? They're 421 miles away from each other.

Dr. Li said in Fallout 3 that Project Purity was only intended to purify the entire Tidal Basin, never everything (or the whole river). Deacon even confirms this when he says water in the Capital Wasteland is drinkable, but doesn't talk of anywhere else.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Potomac_River

GECKs are too rare to mass produce project purity.

[Nish-Ki]

Maybe cause the Commonwealth is coastal? and ground zeros being heavily irradiated just a little south in the Glowing sea.
Aqua boy/girl ~ I always felt was short changed, not like you can fight underwater or find yourself having to sneak your way though by swimming. It seems pointless, even in Skyrim I've only ever recalled having 1 moment where you could swim to avoid detection, with that bee farm.
But if you looking for breathing longer under water, those mirelurk cakes do the trick, no need for survival points either to make 'em.
~Far Habor got a neato suit there as well allows water breathing if you got it.

[igloosfolly]

Project purity was a bottling plant . If you had the DLC to this game pure water became available in a bottle .

[danconnors]

Dr. Li is also in the Institute in Fallout 4. She should know all about this, since she was involved in the original research. As for cleaning up only the tidal basin, what's the point? If you leave the river feeding it contaminated the entire tidal basin will be radioactive again a day or so later.

It wasn't just the drinking water. I could swim in the water at the end without being irradiated.

Out west, where the states are decent sized, 421 miles IS just a hop skip, and a jump.

[Tavman (4)]

I wouldn't call the distance between Boston and Washington DC a hop, skip and a jump away, especially when you have the Glowing Sea and New York in between, both of which have suffered severe devastation from the bombs.

[Tavman (4)]

Originally posted by danconnors:

Funny, since the rad storms are cooked up in a nuclear bomb crater and DC was nuked as thoroughly as the Comonwealth.

That would be because of the advanced game engine Fallout 4 has. I don't recall weather being implemented in Fallout 3.

[Incunabulum]

Originally posted by danconnors:

The aim of Purity is to make ALL the water in the region nonradioactive.

Boston is a long way away from DC. It could in no way be considered to be 'in the same region'.

[Incunabulum]

Originally posted by Tavman (4):

Originally posted by danconnors:

Funny, since the rad storms are cooked up in a nuclear bomb crater and DC was nuked as thoroughly as the Comonwealth.

That would be because of the advanced game engine Fallout 4 has. I don't recall weather being implemented in Fallout 3.

Wasn't implemented, could have been. Was added to FNV 'officially' with Honest Hearts DLC and added to FO3 through modding.

[Incunabulum]

Originally posted by danconnors:

Dr. Li is also in the Institute in Fallout 4. She should know all about this, since she was involved in the original research. As for cleaning up only the tidal basin, what's the point? If you leave the river feeding it contaminated the entire tidal basin will be radioactive again a day or so later.

It wasn't just the drinking water. I could swim in the water at the end without being irradiated.

Out west, where the states are decent sized, 421 miles IS just a hop skip, and a jump.

Nobody ever said the FO3 storyline was well thought out.

[danconnors]

Let's put it differenty. Dr. Li originally lived in the DC area. She was there when Project Purity went into full scale operation--after the main enclave force was destroyed. She knows everything there is to know about Project Purity.

As a responsible, and I think moral scientist, she would have seen to it when she arrived in the Commonwealth that Project Purity was implemented there also. Being intimately connected to the Institute she would have access to technology sufficient to do the job.

Knowing her as I remember from Fallout 3 she would have brow beaten "Father" constantly until he caved, and allowed the Commonwealth's water to be made safe. If the Institute obstinately refused to go along with her, it would just be one more indication of how truly evil the Institute is. It has the ability to clean up the water, and it refuses to do so. That's EVIL.

[Shellbie]

Enjoy

Clean water of the Commonwealth mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwySmPaQNg8